@grillchen I think cognitive dissonance is a powerful thing. the old testament and especially the quran are warlike in parts, but the new testament is very much not.

@James_Dixon @ChristiJunior @Goalkeeper @matty @Frondeur he didnt just forgive the romans lol. he said "them", meaning the whole multitude.

@James_Dixon @ChristiJunior @Goalkeeper Jesus isnt just the same as YHVH, YHVH is Jesus. people reap the punishment of their own misdeeds, but never does that mean God does not love them or does not want them to eventually return to Him. God said to love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, yet you hate your enemies. you know what He also said?

"And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me. Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me."
Matthew 25:40-45

All of you are saying "I will not take the stranger in". you condemn the Jews for what they did to Christ their brother but when you do not help the least among you, you do the same to Jesus.

perhaps even worse, some among you, admitted atheists and bound for a terrible afterlife, say "I will take the stranger in solely if he is white". you know what Jesus said? He said your neighbor, who you should love as yourself, is more a samaritan (who had enmity with the jews) than a jewish priest as long as he shows you compassion. and paul said there is neither Jew nor Greek, for all are one in Christ Jesus.

plainly stated the jews of jesuss time were xenophobes, but jesus was not xenophobic. he loved the stranger. do you?

@SuperSnekFriend @ChristiJunior @Goalkeeper @matty its funny how you compare yourself to jesus yet you mock the real jesus as "lovey-dovey".

@Goalkeeper @ChristiJunior @matty @Frondeur @verita84 what was the question

@Goalkeeper @ChristiJunior @matty @SuperSnekFriend I'm not projecting at all, anyone who reads this conversation impartially can see that I have conducted myself better than you.

@SuperSnekFriend @ChristiJunior @Goalkeeper @matty God never errs. even what seems like an error to mankind is perfect. I answered your question.

@verita84 @Goalkeeper @matty @Frondeur @ChristiJunior God can forgive everyone, who are you to say who should and shouldnt be forgiven? He is infinitely merciful. I'm not the one supporting unbiblical dogma, you are.

@SuperSnekFriend @ChristiJunior @Goalkeeper @matty youre engaged in sophistry for an evil purpose (to not obey Jesus). my answer is: "your father is perfect, therefore be like your father who is perfect".

@Goalkeeper @ChristiJunior @matty @Frondeur I havent been cruel to you but you have been cruel to me. who acts like a better Christian?

@SuperSnekFriend @ChristiJunior @Goalkeeper @matty youre really desperate for an excuse to disregard Gods commandments

@Goalkeeper @ChristiJunior @matty @Frondeur I never said Jesus forgave everyone I said He loved everyone, which one of you said was wrong lmao.

@Goalkeeper @ChristiJunior @matty @Frondeur he literally forgave the people who crucified Him, except Judas

@Frondeur @ChristiJunior @Goalkeeper @matty lmao woopsie

@verita84 @Goalkeeper only ethnically. just like the apostles were. I consider Jesus to be God.

if protestantism were "agape alone" instead of "faith alone" we might not have this problem

@patchuun it really is breathtaking

@King_Noticer @ChristiJunior @Goalkeeper @SuperSnekFriend thats not what helping refugees means lol

@Goalkeeper @ChristiJunior @matty if God only loved people who repented or if He only loved Christians He would not be all-loving. God showers grace on the virtuous and the sinners alike, and Jesus advises christians to be like God in that regard.

"But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.  For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect." Matthew 5:44-48

do you know what Jesus says of people who break his commandments given in his sermon? he says "they will be called least in the kingdom of heaven".

this is the essential belief of hateful christians. their God is simply not all-loving.