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@sathariel @lizzie @snacks @rowb1t you make a good point re homosexual males becoming presets and conservative politicians. the bacha bazi are similarly an extreme effect of gender apartheid. most priests watch porn ive heard as well. but regardless, I believe sex and porn addiction is more common in sexually "liberated" (lol) societies. I might be wrong though.
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honestly now I'm leaning more towards getting the commodore phone and hacking around its limitations. its just so cute..
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@sathariel @lizzie @snacks @rowb1t sex in left hand path tantra or in daoist sexual alchemy is controlled. porn and sex addiction and most masturbation is not controlled. I also think that the belief that pornography is fueled by sexual repression is a libertine take. if that were true sex addiction would be more common in conservative societies, not liberal ones.
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I'm not arguing that everyone should be celibate I'm trying to say that everyone should have self control and not feel like they literally need to masturbate every day
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@snacks @lizzie @rowb1t having a sex drive is one thing, being literally unable to go without even if you desire to go without is addiction. but a healthy minority of people are willing and able to be totally celibate.
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@snacks @lizzie @rowb1t youre not just explaining how sex works you are taking the role of sex in the species as a whole and totalizing it onto every individual even though as row said it is beneficial for many people not to reproduce.
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@sathariel @lizzie @snacks @rowb1t the result of transcending the senses is conscious existence being cleansed. pratyahara is just a step to samadhi. anyway, believing in yoga or the perennial philosophy is not necessary for believing that hedonism is not a good way to live.
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@lizzie @snacks @rowb1t exactly, a human being is above other animals in that we aren't a slave to every instinct. we can and should transcend the world of the senses. and in addition to that, I'd argue that the gooner is an unnatural product of ubiquitous pornography, not someone who is merely following instinct.
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@snacks @georgia @rowb1t nobody has claimed sex drive doesnt tend to perpetuate itself. the question has been “must it rule over a human who can think and make decisions”

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@snacks @rowb1t @lizzie there is an instinctual reason for sex, that doesnt mean one literally can't live without it or that to be celibate is to die.
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@snacks @lizzie @rowb1t youre kind of being an asshole now
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@lizzie @snacks one uniquely lives on through biological children in such a superficial way. your genes aren't even yours, theyre your grandparents. I'd rather live on through a legacy of being kind to all kinds of people. it is better to adopt.
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@snacks your reasoning is fallacious. just because sex creates life doesnt mean one must live for sex and base their life around it.
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@snacks @lizzie I already reincarnate I dont need to live vicariously through biological children
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@snacks I know your motive is rooted in defending gooner behavior but you sound like an unhinged natalist evopsycher right now. lots of people live happy full lives without sex.
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@snacks and yet I do exist without sex
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@snacks you dont "literally die" thats incredibly hyperbolic. sex and survival are two distinct instincts.
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@snacks lots of people have been celibate
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@snacks reproducing and gooning are very different and its very possible to exist without sex
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