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@genmaicha @prettygood today my family raved about my moms beef ribs
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@pettanko @echo @newt it really is. killing at birth vs killing after 8 months in confinement, what's crueler? maybe veal but barely
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@Hyperhidrosis @echo @newt killing anyone who doesnt pose a threat to life is a sin
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@newt @echo your rhetoric is incredibly cruel but the example of pets makes another point for me. domesticated livestock are treated far worse than domesticated pets. confined in very tight spaces, often with unnecessary painful surgical procedures performed on them (while surgeries like declawing are now illegal), with their young taken and the males among them often murdered, and finally killed for their meat. they live lives of exploitation and pain, unlike domestic pets who are pampered to a degree. there is no logical difference underlying the disparate treatment between cows and pigs and cats and dogs. its just what humans have decided is okay.
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@newt @echo cows are still conscious feeling beings. what about humans with severe mental impairments? relying on intellect as the metric for ethical treatment leaves them behind.
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himsa is himsa. if himsa isnt done to support dharma (ideally to support ahimsa) it is unlawful
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@newt @echo you could say the same thing about a human infant, most livestock are more conscious than one yet we afford the human infant far more rights (and fewer responsibility)
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my dog is so food motivated its kind of humorous
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@MURRUMUR God bless this manul
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@newt @echo *old female dairy cows not calves
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@newt @echo alternatively you could let the cow keep its calf and then take the excess milk but few corpos do that. they kill male calves (rarely even are they left alive for veal anymore, cause veal is considered cruel) and old female dairy calves. if I had my way the aurochs never wouldve gone extinct and all dairy farming would be vedic style but I do not have it my way.
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@newt @echo most places have alternative milks now in my experience. I prefer it for animal welfare reasons.
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@newt I dont think I'm reproducing lol. I want to adopt one day though
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@newt my sister does too, I really should...
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@newt I kind of just bite the bullet and eat dairy anyway but youre not wrong
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I'll need to be vegan again to stop having problems with dairy
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tummy troubles from ice cream ;_;
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