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@coolbean reading intel specs is never good for your sanity
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@coolbean ig it was fine in btx because those cpus still had a north bridge and the memory controller was on that
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@coolbean because youcre trying to send multi ghz signals over a pretty wide bus. More length adds capacitance and inductance and the angle means you gotta snake some around a bunch to get even lengths as at this frequency it does matter a lot that the speed of light is finite
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@coolbean the ram is really far away and at an angle in btx tho. Really don't wanna copy that i think
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@coolbean if you make a proper sff standard might consider going 12vo too
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@coolbean it'd improve perf a good bit if all slots are populated and hurt it a bit if only half of them are populated i think. Some motherboards do something similar by runnig the trace to the middle of both slots and then splitting instead of going to one and then the other but not common in consumer stuff because usually only half the slots are populated. Just thought it'd be elegant tbh
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@coolbean i actually just had a good idea. If you put the ram slots of one channel on opposing sides of the motherboard you end up with perfectly even trace lengths, that would be pretty nice
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@coolbean yeah, risers are fucky. Had a gpu that just refused to work with them...
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@coolbean ok, hear me out: the 4090 is actually amazing for sff IF you watercool it. The motherboard is tiny
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@coolbean fans can draw air straight from the outside and putting it in non-angled would just create a bunch of empty space
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@coolbean crazy standard with angled pcie slot on the back would be cool for this
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@coolbean just stumbeld over this, might be relevant
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@coolbean ram in server motherboards is usually top and/or bottom of the cpu while the vrm is right/left so the heatsink fins are parallel to the bottom. Leads to everything being aligned nicely so air can be blown over it left to right
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@coolbean another pet peeve of mine is that i wish we had the ram and vrm layout of server motherboards even tho it doesn't really matter for wide desktop cases
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@coolbean 2 dimm boards are usually where allt he ram speed records get set funny enough and i've only used more than 2 slots once when i built my mom an office pc from old stuff and slapped both 16gb kits i had in for funsies.
But yeah, itx is shorter than needed for most usecases, still wish the motherboard standard that used mxm succeeded for sff
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Edited 2 hours ago
Eren's crashout was reasonable tho
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@druid it does definetly go places, but the ending is controversial
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