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@overflow @pernia @PussySlayer @TheMadPirate @b @sjw but the men were made by women so it's still straight
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@pernia @PussySlayer @TheMadPirate @b @overflow @sjw i'm a materialist which was out of fashion by the 90s with the rise of neoliberal choice feminism and gender theory
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@pernia @PussySlayer @TheMadPirate @b @overflow @sjw you don't know what you're talking about. i never said gender theory was in the 70s i said it took over feminism. and materialism refers to an analysis of sexism as rooted in biological sex. it's marxist in origin but nothing like the self proclaimed marxist feminists of today.
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@TheMadPirate @PussySlayer @b @overflow @pernia @sjw there's a difference between radical and marxist feminism though radical feminism is rooted in marxist historical materialism, specifically the origin of the family, private property and the state. i'm not a seize the means of production type marxist though. i'm a democratic socialist.
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@TheMadPirate @PussySlayer @b @overflow @pernia @sjw bell hooks was an intersectionalist and while i agree that racism intersects with sexism "intersectionality" has been crudely appropriated to mean "all women but white heterosexual cis women are oppressed" which is basically saying sexism doesn't exist as a discrete form of oppression.
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@pernia @PussySlayer @TheMadPirate @b @overflow @sjw i agree with the change the laws type approach of liberal feminism but liberal feminists have also made feminism into a joke, i mean have you seen slut marches
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@TheMadPirate @PussySlayer @b @overflow @pernia @sjw what? i agree with all three of the women on most things.
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@TheMadPirate @noyoushutthefuckupdad @Moon @PussySlayer @b @overflow @pernia @sjw that kind of mental gymnastics is what you get when you consider the sex or race of a candidate as more important than their views and policy goals
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@TheMadPirate @pernia @PussySlayer @b @overflow @sjw
cringe
are you opposed to the married womens property acts and the end of coverture?
cringe
are you opposed to the married womens property acts and the end of coverture?
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@TheMadPirate @PussySlayer @b @overflow @pernia @sjw well i agree with them on feminism, not necessarily in other domains. but good for you bud.
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@TheMadPirate @Moon @PussySlayer @b @noyoushutthefuckupdad @overflow @pernia @sjw you don't think women should vote or own property so don't pretend to be a meritocrat
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@TheMadPirate @Moon @PussySlayer @b @noyoushutthefuckupdad @overflow @pernia @sjw inb4 women don't have merit
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@TheMadPirate @pernia @PussySlayer @b @overflow @sjw burke was a conservative who opposed any sort of womens rights, of course she opposed him. to call her a marxist is to utterly misunderstand marxism.
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@TheMadPirate @PussySlayer @b @overflow @pernia @sjw lmao. to enslave an entire class of people as broodmares and call yourself enlightened. i think your aversion to any sort of empathy based morality is a reflection of your own admitted pathological narcissism.
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@TheMadPirate @Moon @PussySlayer @b @noyoushutthefuckupdad @overflow @pernia @sjw that's just aristocracy
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@pernia @TheMadPirate @PussySlayer @b @overflow @sjw wollestonecrafts vindication of the rights of women was basically the beginning of feminism and she existed during a time when women were quite literally the property of their husbands
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@TheMadPirate @PussySlayer @b @overflow @pernia @sjw the french revolution was based in enlightenment values albeit radically. it presaged the more reformist but no less transformative 48 revolutions.
but it wasn't marxist any more than any historic leftist populism was.
but it wasn't marxist any more than any historic leftist populism was.
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@TheMadPirate @pernia @Moon @PussySlayer @b @noyoushutthefuckupdad @overflow @sjw alright lads it was fun talking about whether i should be able to vote but i gotta get swole
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@TheMadPirate @PussySlayer @b @overflow @pernia @sjw hobbes is the one who represented the opposite.
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@TheMadPirate @PussySlayer @b @overflow @pernia @sjw so anything besides laisse faire capitalism is socialism in your estimation.
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@TheMadPirate @PussySlayer @b @overflow @pernia @sjw lizard brain is just a metaphor we are humans with human brains despite it having "primitive" origins
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Lucy 
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methyltheobromine
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@pernia @search_social @Moon @PussySlayer @TheMadPirate @b @noyoushutthefuckupdad @overflow @sjw exams quickly escalate into ideological tests and under a purely capitalist system become perverted into proxies for wealth like the SAT prep cottage industry
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@pernia @Moon @PussySlayer @TheMadPirate @b @noyoushutthefuckupdad @overflow @search_social @sjw while i agree that some people are genuinely too stupid to know their best interests (which is how so many blue collar whites supported trump) you do realize the absolute immorality of an elite caste or class ruling on the backs of the mass of the people right? how easy it is to become exploitative to benefit the few? with capitalism the fact that the laypeople can vote is the only check on this. honestly straight up eugenics is better than restricting the vote imo.
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@pernia @Moon @PussySlayer @TheMadPirate @b @noyoushutthefuckupdad @overflow @search_social @sjw voting is the greatest civil liberty after speech
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@Moon @TheMadPirate @PussySlayer @b @noyoushutthefuckupdad @overflow @pernia @search_social @sjw i wrote a long response about consent of the governed and natural rights but it got deleted by a page refresh, fuck this
the united states bill of rights is not what endows us with natural rights, or they wouldn't be natural
the united states bill of rights is not what endows us with natural rights, or they wouldn't be natural
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@galena @search_social it's sophistry, a thought terminating cliche. it's basically saying that having guns is only an indirect right.
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@galena @search_social sophistry ie superficially plausible but fallacious, built on flawed reasoning,
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