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remembering that time one of you guys said a man shouldn't have to pay child support if he testifies that he wanted the mother to have an abortion and that the lack of this option was indicative of systemic sexism against men and that women should have to pay child support for kids put up for adoption. that was fucking retarded.
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@a7 i believe you started the discussion and it tangented into one about how oppressive child support is.
you're right i merged different related responses which is why i didn't attribute the position to you. it just kinda "evolved" into that. i didn't know you were being contrarian either ._.
you're right i merged different related responses which is why i didn't attribute the position to you. it just kinda "evolved" into that. i didn't know you were being contrarian either ._.
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@thestrongest it's not logically inconsistent. the woman is the one gestating it.
"i don't want to gestate this child"
"no you have to"
"i want to gestate this child"
"no you can't"
not in the mood to talk to men who think their jizz contains full homunculi waiting to be cooked in a flesh vessel
"i don't want to gestate this child"
"no you have to"
"i want to gestate this child"
"no you can't"
not in the mood to talk to men who think their jizz contains full homunculi waiting to be cooked in a flesh vessel
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@thestrongest i'm not entertaining counterfactual thought experiments. if you can afford a surrogate you can afford a baby and a woman can't legally keep a baby not related to her which is the case with modern paid surrogacy
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@ChristiJunior @thestrongest abortion is a question of two unethicals-- killing a primordial potential human vs forcing a sapient developed human being to host that thing unwillingly. i agree liberals are too flippant about it.
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@thestrongest i'm not an expert in surrogate law, maybe they can't force an abortion because muh natalism but she can't keep it.
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@thestrongest well she can't keep it against their will. if they don't want the child she could keep it which presumably she would. but none of these things happen, people seeking surrogates don't change their mind. it's not a split of the moment decision.
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@ChristiJunior @thestrongest are you pro choice cause of eugenics though?
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@thestrongest sounds like bullshit unless she was the genetic mother.
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@thestrongest @ChristiJunior a lot of righty types are just pro choice cause black people disproportionately choose to abort.
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@ChristiJunior @thestrongest ah well the latter part of your response is my position as well.
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@thestrongest @worm the US has a terrible record on the rights of children holy shit
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@dsfgs @orekix @thestrongest "black people might be sexier and therefore choose to have more unprotected sex" are you literally trolling
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