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@orekix this is why next time i get something expensive i'm shipping it to my sister, fuck sales tax
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@lain @orekix personal property is one thing, only private property should be taxed
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@orekix @lain fake anticapitalist
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@lain @orekix okay but ask yourself why you don't have it and others do. by definition there's a degree of exploitation involved when someone makes a payment for, say, land or housing, and certainly natural resources. it's the difference between freedom from government interference in your personal effects and freedom to exploit your fellows.
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@lain @orekix what is exploitation? using a preexisting imbalance of power to extract a material gain from someone at their expense. buying the town river and selling back the water is exploitation. so why isn't buying the town beach and selling membership fees to attend it?
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@lain @orekix i think when someone makes something with their labor for their own use and then lets other people use it it's different from what usually happens, which is they barely set foot in it and make a lot of profit while the people who perform the labor to upkeep it make next to nothing.
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@shmibs @lain @orekix right it sounds trite but the concept of owning land you don't live in is just wild
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@p @lain @orekix metaphysics on main, metaphysics on main!!
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@p @lain @orekix i was thinking more elementary vibrations, not through a medium but like fundamentally.
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@orekix @lain most capitalists are more opportunists than inventors. even industrialists like musk have way more money than justified by inventiveness alone.
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@lain @orekix @shmibs the house has a value to you, being your parents house, it's more than just capital to you, and you want to keep it while still making money from it. it's only exploitative insofar as charging for any airbnb is.
i think there's the temptation of the middle class to identify themselves with the super rich, while on the one hand cursing them they maintain the fairness of the whole conceit that enables their continued existence. and that's what capitalists want. they'd love for people to think of elderly pensioners renting out their basement when they think of landlords. but by gross numbers, that's not what landowners look like.
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@lain @shmibs @orekix night night lain kun
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@alex @lain @orekix most of our spending is non discretionary, creating the pernicious temptation to say "lets just kill ss and medicare lol debt gone" without asking why those things cost so much.
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