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@yarra @Agni @a7 @freemo good luck achieving oogamous reproduction without an oocyte
sessile is bestsile
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@lain @Agni @a7 @freemo @yarra THAT'S MY FAVORITE PART
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@freemo @Agni @yarra @a7 ovotestis aren't a spectrum. they're a combination of ovarian and testicular tissue. and gametic anomalies does not a third sex make.
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@freemo @Agni @yarra @a7 sex is a binary. the difference between asexual and sexual reproduction is reproduction by two unalike organisms--anisogamy. male and female. i think what you're saying is human dimorphic sex features, and in the case of ovotestis human gonads, very occasionally exhibit features of both dyadic sexes, but such edge cases usually end up being infertile. if what you're saying is "disorders of sex development exist, pheno and genotypic anomalies exist" then no one disagrees. it ultimately boils down to a semantic argument of what "sex" and "spectrum" mean. which is no fun.
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@a7 @freemo @Agni @yarra autism is a spectrum
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@SwampWitchHerbalist @freemo @a7 he has capital letters after his name, how dare you use mundane common sense
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@freemo @Agni @yarra @a7
dude sex literally refers to gametes. that's why female is defined as "of or related to the sex that produces eggs" and likewise male with sperm.

also "infertile women have no gametes to speak of" bro are you for real

"infertile people exist" is a babby-tier gotcha
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@freemo @Agni @yarra @a7 it's literally reverse. dimorphic sex of organisms only exists because sexual reproduction exists aka reproduction with unalike gametes. sexed bodies are just specialized gamete delivery/gestation vehicles.
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@freemo @yarra @a7 you're talking about sex determination in humans. i'm talking about sex. again, sexed bodies only exist insofar as they are idealized gamete makers and gestaters. (the latter in the case of oogamy)
you'll find it is you who is obfuscating here.
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@freemo @yarra @a7 i'm not talking about coitus. i'm talking about the fusion of unalike gametes. medical dictionaries will naturally have an anatomical take rather than a broader one. which is, of course, that sex refers to gametes. if sex didn't refer to gametes, and just genitals, then it wouldn't be meaningful to call plants male and female. it is possible to have dimorphic gametes without dimorphic sexes, but not vise versa.
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