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apparently refugees from trans reddit are infesting /tttt/, good for them
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no wait actually it's all the boards, that rules
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>redditors are mad
>channers are mad

everyone wins
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@allison i'm pretty sure it is cause a lot of anons are totally clueless about the /tttt/ trip pantheon. supposedly /lgbt/ used to just be a trip circlejerk.
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@taylan that's a huge part of why actually. it's patronizingly hugboxy, promotes an extreme orthodoxy of opinion, and also it's mostly teenage babytranses who have an absolutely insufferable culture consisting of anime girl memes and jokes that are not funny. r/transgendercirclejerk is the only decent board. also the redditors on r/mtf are like, nearly as bad as twitter trans women when it comes to being cringe to a general audience. that is having takes that are false flag tier bad, and hypersexual kink stuff.

of course /tttt/ is awful but in a different way, less cringe in some regards because they savagely self police. and the people who don't pass there know they will be called a hon if they post pictures. it's brutal. there's an r9k adjacent culture of picking apart differences in male and female skeletal structure (it's even called transmaxxing), it's not uncommon to see posts talking about philtrum length or Q angle. cause of this /tttt/ gives you brainworms where you forget that most people aren't as tuned to these differences and just see long hair, makeup, soft hairless skin, smaller chin and browbone, and not receded hairline, and think "woman" instead of like, checking skull size or length of arms compared to height. /tttt/ clockery may have good sensitivity but the specificity is bad, users often talk about how they see cis women as looking like they're trans and call them "cishons". and there's the related culture of tripfags who say they don't pass because they're a bit clocky without makeup (and some of them pass perfectly and are genuinely that deranged), or that they are ugly when they are attractive. it's a combination of attention whoring, both among themselves and the cismale chasers who inhabit the board (i personally estimate that excluding gay men lurkers are 50% chasers. there's a love hate relationship with the chasers, that is loving being told they are sexually desirable often in lurid ways but hating that they are a fetish) and like, genuine mental disorder BDD shit. what else? speaking of /r9k/, some, maybe 5% of /tttt/ are sexists straight from that board who talk of "roasties", call being a woman easy mode, talk about how cis women are less intelligent than trans women, say "you will be obsolete when we get wombs". but there's also a barely smaller cohort that worships cis women, and thinks trans women and all y chromosids are scum. of course most just have middle of the road views on women, like the american two parties views.
there are mutiple trans focused gens with overlapping but different subcultures, repgen is the worst, moreso than hornygen or agpgen. repgen is just the same anons telling eachother to "keep repping bros" and occasional piteous lurkers who chime in to say "I WISH I WAS A WOMAN" like with the caps too. i actually convinced a couple reppers who seemed like they were at a breaking point and wanted to be told it was okay not to rep that it doesn't matter if they don't pass or meet a prescriptive definition, that it's better to be less miserable than more basically. some of them were eighteen and thought they were too old, it's insanity. i could go on, it's a shithole with a rich culture, and now redditers are disturbing it with newfagging, which is beautiful.
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@nyx @shibao eh i prefer the pathetic to the proud, it's a personal taste.
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@nyx @shibao ideally it is grown, cast off like an old ill fitting skin, but some stay inexplicably even after stealthing, and basically languish.
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@nyx @shibao 4chan is much more toxic but also much funnier
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@Jojothegoodperson @nyx @shibao sup jojo :) you're almost eighteen right?
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@shibao @nyx my favorite thing about 4chan is half of it is LARP, keeps you on your toes
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@Jojothegoodperson @nyx @shibao eh i wouldn't say that, maybe itls closer to 4chan than reddit culture but it's pretty unique i think
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@shibao @nyx if 4chan embraced the spirits of apu and gondola it would not wither
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@Jojothegoodperson @nyx @shibao oh that's a fair point for sure
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@shibao @nyx @Jojothegoodperson attribution with anonymity is the best model
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@shibao @Jojothegoodperson @nyx for preventing harassment and in general
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@realcaseyrollins @Jojothegoodperson @shibao the american left is reformist not radical
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@realcaseyrollins @Jojothegoodperson @shibao politics being bad and the lack of laicite in discourse presumably
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@realcaseyrollins @Jojothegoodperson @shibao no lol LGBT is bourgeoise, gay people talk about hating corporate pride all the time. being gay means buying merch and having a long bio.
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@Jojothegoodperson @realcaseyrollins @shibao need i pull up your badfediposts about cock and boipussy
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@shibao @shebang @realcaseyrollins @Jojothegoodperson detransitioning is a thing which will become more common since there's less gatekeeping, but it's not super common now and anyway there's no way to make someone do it, it's in an internal realization and decision.
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@realcaseyrollins @shibao @Jojothegoodperson @shebang well yeah if someone is shizophrenic or has munchausen syndrome i doubt they'd undergo the normal approval process
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@realcaseyrollins @Jojothegoodperson @shebang @shibao um no, minors can't be forced to transition, what forcedfem shota doujin did you read
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@realcaseyrollins @Jojothegoodperson @shebang @shibao oh you mean by parents? that's just munchausen by proxy and it sucks but that doesn't mean every medical condition without clear signs should be doubted when people take their kids to the hospital
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@shibao @shebang @realcaseyrollins @Jojothegoodperson this but with anime women. i'm sick of "hot anime girls" looking like tweens at the oldest.
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@Jojothegoodperson @realcaseyrollins @shebang @shibao cause they find sexual depictions of stylized male children arousing
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@Jojothegoodperson @realcaseyrollins @shebang @shibao i'm sorry you felt like you couldn't come out? almost no one knows i'm gay cept like my mom and sister and grandma
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@shibao @shebang @realcaseyrollins @Jojothegoodperson is it not important that your landlord doesn't misgender you when they refuse to fix your black mold?
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@motobug @taylan when i was in a more mentally ill state i became obsessed with noticeable only by me asymmetries in my bone structure i can imagine how much worse it is when it's systemic, unfixable, noticeable by others, and identity dystonic
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@shibao @shebang @xue @realcaseyrollins @Jojothegoodperson plan B should be free and accessible at any age and this wouldn't be a problem. parental approval requirements are straight up evil and reminiscent of property law.
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@realcaseyrollins @Jojothegoodperson @shebang @shibao @xue it's proven to not be that's a lie by christfags
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@realcaseyrollins @Jojothegoodperson @shebang @shibao @xue are you stupid or something. if a two year old gets raped and somehow had guinness world record breaking precocious puberty and you don't administer plan B despite knowing soon after you should have your custody taken away and be charged with abuse and neglect.
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@xue @Jojothegoodperson @realcaseyrollins @shebang @shibao plan a being a condom or birth control yeah
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@shibao @shebang @xue @realcaseyrollins @Jojothegoodperson i mean i'm opposed to infant circumcision except in countries with active HIV epidemics despite the fact that it will never affect me directly or indirectly. i mean apart from being jewish and maybe my grandparents would be mad at me if i didn't circumcise a kid. it's sort of like an empathy thing. perhaps i'm holding you to a different standard than cis men idk. just your wording seemed harsh. not giving a shit. meh.
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@xue @Jojothegoodperson @realcaseyrollins @shebang @shibao because two year olds can't consent to sex
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@shibao @shebang @xue @realcaseyrollins @Jojothegoodperson i'm not asking you to be for or against, it's just the way you phrased it. my take on abortion is after viability it's murder but it should be very easy to get early on when it feels no pain and can't be described as sentient.
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@shibao @shebang @xue @realcaseyrollins @Jojothegoodperson for sure everyone is like that even if they deny it, except for like enlightened buddhist monks or something.
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@xue @Jojothegoodperson @realcaseyrollins @shebang @shibao i mean the fact that i am in a position to evaluate whether or not i'm sentient is a pretty strong indicator of sentience, maybe even sapience.
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@xue @Jojothegoodperson @realcaseyrollins @shebang @shibao fetuses literally don't have a brain and nervous system (they have a "neural tube") till 7 weeks, electrical activity in the brain is undetectable till week eight, pregnancies can be detected by test at nine days and by missed period at 5 weeks you do the math. i have seen a fetal autopsy specimen, young fetal brains are tiny and free of wrinkles. you're really reaching.
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@xue @Jojothegoodperson @realcaseyrollins @shebang @shibao dude did you not see what i commented to that was his thought experiment
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@roboneko @xue @Jojothegoodperson @realcaseyrollins @shebang @shibao no it was a response to something someone else said i don't babble in impossible extremes
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@Jojothegoodperson @xue @realcaseyrollins @shebang @shibao there aren't enough orphanages for that, it would be a disaster.
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@realcaseyrollins @xue @Jojothegoodperson @shebang @shibao yes they are atomic organisms and genetically human, human being is an unusual appellate for them, but it's semantics. fetuses also occasionally parasite the resources of and inhabit the body of a much higher organism that doesn't want them there, and at great discomfort. you imagine yourself as the fetus, but not the mother, though she is far more similar to you. a fetus drinks a womans blood, consumes her food, inhabits her flesh to survive, and the question is, when does the immorality of killing a living thing (regardless of how sentient) outweigh the immorality of being forced to be pregnant? disregarding the wishes of the host categorically is utterly immoral and suggests you either lack empathy or you basically view a woman's function as being for others, to finish her gestational duty rather than control her own life and body.

killing anything sucks. christians say that human life is precious yet they are first to tie a hangman's knot. all life is precious and i wouldn't personally have an abortion on the chance i am raped, because i also have PCOS and take birth control treat it, but if i weren't on hbc i'd take Plan B. it's because i care about all life. but i doubt most pro-life people refrain from killing, some hunt for mere sport.

of course the usual qualm is either "even though it's not sentient, it has an immortal soul" which can immediately be discarded. or it is "it has an inherent potential to be a full human being (some pregnancies end in miscarriage after all)" in which case i would unironically suggest never cumming in a circumstance where pregnancy can't result, each drop contains thousands of potential people, yet most men drown it in socks or toilets or i don't know, it's disgusting to me.

i am muting this thread because none of you have a uterus so i really don't care what your opinion is on abortion, you are incapable of empathizing with pregnant women.
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