@shmibs @shibao alteration of space and time are peripheral to the experience as are all aberrations of sensorial phenomena. during a trip one makes internal connections in their memories and in the world, and many revelations about the self can occur. it changes the way you think about consciousness itself. that's why i think people fear drugs deep down, why "it fucks you up forever" stories predominate the conversation about them. you realize that baseline consciousness itself is a state and it no longer feels self evidently "normal" or "natural" merely by being the one you're in most frequently. hedonistic trippers have made the pretty colors what psychedelics are known for but just my last two trips have changed my relationship to myself and the world completely. they are called entheogens for a reason.... i think people fear them for that reason, too. just my take.

@shmibs @shibao what makes a connection spurious? can it be right or wrong as long as it is useful and meaningful? and is optimized "best to parse consensus reality"? the mind can only be and "efficient" or "inefficient" mechanism if you have a certain task for it, which to you it seems is to exist in basal state, perceiving only what others do, as if nothing else is real.

@shmibs @shibao that's fair, i'm going to stop doing drugs when i become enlightened enough for my liking. people can change in perpetuity but if your goal is that it would be a way to do it.