I'm really glad I quit drinking actually

@vriska im glad i never started

@vriska Now that you have what you need, that makes sense.

@thor I decided that it's time to stop making myself worse on purpose

Next I gotta quit drinking so much caffeine

@vriska Worse is one word for it. I didn't view it as worse. Some of us work together. A lost art.

@thor well when I drank it definitely made me worse and I knew it and did it anyway

@vriska Yet did it lead to a bad outcome? In medias res. Medium resolves. But then you move on.

@thor it did actually, made my health worse physically and mentally, I guess if you mean on a grander scale there's no outcome for anything yet

@vriska I was thinking more of the latter than the former.

@vriska But even your mistakes and self-destructive actions can lead to something positive. Of course, one should try to avoid them. But a necessary evil or two can lead to good things. It's a risky bet, but without risk, nothing interesting would happen, and then what is life for?

@thor I think I might be well past taking heedless risks for no reason but I understand your point!

Spent pretty much all of my life so far experiencing evils, it's nice to be old and boring these days

@vriska You may not have known it at the time, but those headless risks were perhaps not so headless after all.

You have the luxury of being old and boring because you managed to hang on. Survival skills.

@vriska By the time you know what the right way of living is, you're in the grave.

@thor ain't that the truth

@vriska Now, no matter how much our perspectives differ, I'm having a good time with you, and our emails.

@thor I'm enjoying our conversations too ^^

@vriska So, without considering any outcomes, I think that is worth keeping, in its own right.

You asked about how men think earlier. Well, I'm thinking I want to sleep with you. But that's the penis talking. I have time for other things than that, if I think it makes life better.

@thor y'know conversations that take turns like this illustrate another reason why I'm glad i don't drink anymore!

Fortunate that you have those other things to do instead of pining for something that will never, ever happen

@vriska Might not happen between us. But it has happened between me and other women before. I gain benefits from the alcohol. I can look at a situation without panicking or getting offended. Without making the future - "pining" for things as you so disdainfully call it - nothing will new ever happen. You reject this idea too quickly. I thought you knew better.

@vriska The impression I'm left with is that you do as other women. You seek securiy.

@thor I meant me specifically and I also meant no disdain at all, nor am I offended

Sorry that you were, though. It was meant to be a lighthearted tease

@thor tone is hard through text and if I sounded disdainful or offended it was not my intention

Lighthearted teasing is something I do with friends

@vriska Tone is hard through text. I tend to do better if I can actually talk to the person.

@vriska Texting often leads to anger and hurt in my experience. You can't read the body language, and this leads to problems.

@thor apologies for the miscommunication

If I'm actually angry I do try to let the person on the other end know in very specific terms to try to mitigate that issue

@georgia thank you ^^

@vriska You did push my buttons there. I don't have a long sex history. Only slept with a handful of women. According to the standards I set for myself, that track record is too short.

@vriska Whether I like it or not, some of my self worth does depend on what women think about me.

@thor same here, though I am completely repulsed by sex, for me it's just women thinking I'm cool and worth befriending

@vriska So you're an asexual. Yet bisexual. This could cause some confusion, you know.

@thor asexual biromantic if you're into the split attraction model

I love romance I just hate sex

@vriska Ah, I see. I place a lot of importance on that as well. But I also include in that idea that one can offer relief for the body. It's not the most important part, but it's caretaking.

@vriska I had some bad experiences with hookers because someone told me that sex is good and you can have that for money. I wasn't able to enjoy it.

@thor I definitely can see that and totally understand sex is really romantic for some in the right context but personally not for me