@sun I knew all those accounts with swastika emojis in their name were just controlled opposition.
@sun That man looks terrified that someone in the house is going to find his piss jar collection.
@sun “Facebook is woke” tell that to all the conspiracy theorists who believe Trump was sent by god to fight the anti-christ
@SuperDicq @lucy @sun I don’t think Gaben has ever said anything political, unless you count the stuff about Microsoft from 2013 when he announced Steam coming to Linux
overall he’s still the same as he has been for as long as he’s been in the games space, just, y’know, older
@SuperDicq @hj @lucy @sun there are conflicting stories on Santa Claus but one story goes that it was a really bad person who was forced by God to be kind and give presents to children
@asa @SuperDicq @lucy @sun “new age-y” they just never created a formal hierarchy since the olden days when they could actually be a flat org because there were only like 10 people
@Reiddragon @lucy @sun The most political thing Gaben ever said was when he said “Single-player games are like a feature film where your lead actor is retarded and autistic”
@SuperDicq @lucy @sun @asa tbf, the creative limitations in most games don’t come from the way things are organised internally, but rather from shareholders wanting everything to be monetised. Valve, unlike basically every other game dev their size, doesn’t have to worry about shareholders, and since they own Steam they don’t have to worry about money, either. Making games really is just about making games for them
@hj @SuperDicq @lucy @sun actually santa claus and saint nicholas are only the same in some versions, in Romania, for example, they’re distinct entities
@SuperDicq @lucy @sun @mer DRM goes back far before Valve or Steam, and, if nothing else, Steam was one of the first ones that didn’t fucking suck for the player unlike what came before, things like StarForce that outright broke your hardware
@Reiddragon @lucy @sun Somewhere in this video https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=Td_PGkfIdIQ
@hj @SuperDicq @lucy @sun that got burried 12ft under with the revolution of ‘89 in Romania, instead we’ve had “Old Man Christmas” since then
@sun @SuperDicq @lucy @mer and infact many games don’t
Infact, even some of Valve’s own games don’t use the DRM stuff (tho they may still break due to integrations with other things from Steam like the workshop)
you can choose not to use DRM for your game.
Depends on your definition of DRM. I’m still can’t download the “DRM-free” game I purchased without installing the Steam client first.
@mer @Reiddragon @lucy @sun You don’t need the Steam client to buy a game on Steam. You can buy a game on the a website.
@mer @Reiddragon @lucy @sun GOG is seriously better in this regard because while they have the GOG Galaxy client is is fully optional and they simply allow you to download your games in a zip file on the website.
@SuperDicq @lucy @sun @mer “in a zip file” oh if only, instead they have their shitty installers that don’t even have a GUI on Linux anymore because they depend on GTK2
@Reiddragon @lucy @sun @mer Depends on the game, they sometimes have shitty installers indeed.
their shitty installers that don’t even have a GUI on Linux anymore because they depend on GTK2
Your distro doesn’t have GTK2? What the fuck are you using?
@SuperDicq @lucy @sun @mer it does have gtk2 in the repos, but what the fuck even is there to have it installed on most people’s systems? and imagine if you’re someone who doesn’t know you can also run the installer in a terminal without the GUI, then you just see the installer not starting and think it’s completely broken
@Reiddragon @lucy @sun @mer Personally with proprietary crap like this I expect it to have weird unexpected dependencies to be honest. It doesn’t surprise me in the slightest.
Most people already have GTK2 installed anyway. There are lots of free software applications that still require GTK2. GIMP is a very common one that comes to mind for example.
The Steam client contains a lot more bullshit than the GOG installers do actually.
@Reiddragon @lucy @sun @mer I agree that would be nice to have if GOG at least told users that GTK2 is a requirement on the download page.
@SuperDicq @lucy @sun @mer and may I ask, what even uses GTK2 still besides GIMP, cause I can’t think of a single program
also, GIMP’s not super common, not everyone does image editing or digital art to have it installed (I, for one, don’t have it installed)
and among all of Steam’s dependencies, the only one that’s fucky is Zenity because gnome can’t help but fuck it up; thankfully I could just quickly patch qarma’s PKGBUILD to make it properly replace Zenity and that works Well Enuff™
@icedquinn @SuperDicq @lucy @sun @mer nope, it actually doesn’t use Electron, but it does use webviews for a lot of stuff which does suck dirty ass
@SuperDicq @Reiddragon @lucy @sun @mer Well you can also just unzip/bsdtar xvf the thing and so avoid running their code. (Or innoextract for the Windows ones)
@SuperDicq @lucy @sun @mer tbh I have to ask why they’re even using GTK2 considering the installer’s UI doesn’t do anything fancy; something like xlib or Tk would prob work just as well for their UI while being a lot less troublesome with the dependencies
@lanodan @SuperDicq @lucy @sun @mer except for the part where innoextract can’t always make sense of them, and even when it does make sense of the installer, you’re often times left with a mess of files to figure out yourself
@lanodan @SuperDicq @lucy @sun @mer tbh I haven’t even bought any Windows games on GOG, but I did get a bunch of freebies like Postal 2 which I can’t even play because the installers are pieces of shit and I don’t have any good way of moving files between my Windows VM and Linux host to install in the VM then just copy the installed files over
@lanodan @Reiddragon @lucy @sun @mer If I’m running proprietary garbage anyway I personally don’t really care if I have to fire up Wine or Proton either.
@lanodan @Reiddragon @lucy @sun @mer Yeah of course that isn’t a usecase that the original developers thought about.