i don't care about horses at all but i suddenly began to take an interest in them after venerating santa muerte for a while and this deck of playing cards she had me steal for her has horses as the joker cards i think she might just really like horses, or she wants me to keep an eye on horses as a symbol for some reason. i really need to buy that statue of her as a charra

@unmind

@unmind any tips for starting veneratin santa muerte

@cryborg when i started getting serious about it i just set aside a little space for her where i could put little trinkets and burn candles/incense for her and pray. i've heard your first statue should be a gift, which is easier if you live in a bigger city or closer to/in mexico, and it probably isn't necessary, though mine was a gift. most people just start by telling her about their day and talking to her like a new (really an old) friend. i personally moved in with someone who venerated her and i started having visions of her because i was living in the same house as her, and she asked me to give up cigarettes for her, and only once i did that did we actually start building a relationship; by that point i had already known her for like 2 years, so she really was more of an old friend. some people draw pictures of her and talk to that; i bought like a little skull trinket that i found at a bookstore. i also did a buddhist meditation on the stages of corpse decay for a week early on that felt really cool with her and made me feel very close to her but i couldn't keep up with it

@cryborg she likes catholic prayers, the psalms, and the song of songs in my experience. sometimes she wants me to say them to her in spanish and sometimes in english. i have no experience venerating her outside of a mexican folk catholic context. i did the catholic daily prayers at one point for a little while but found she didn't really care much for it herself (not like she disliked it, but i didn't get the sense it was very meaningful to her) and plus i couldn't keep up with it

@unmind coprse decay stages meditation... interesting.
thank u

@unmind a si hablas espa;ol, y ahora q lo dices tiene sentido de los rezos catolicos ademas q es mucho sincretismo. ahora q lo pienso el unico rezo catolico que recuerdo tiene la palabra muerte en el, espero que le guste

@cryborg si un poco, lo entiendo mejor q puedo hablarlo. cuando rezo la ave maria, la ultima palabra, muerte, se vuelve muy brillante en mi mente y en mi corazon

@unmind la que yo conozco es
Ángel de mi guarda,
dulce compañía,
no me desampares
ni de noche ni de día,
ni en la hora de mi muerte. Amén
hay una variacion que habla de morir en el sueño pero no la recuerdo...

@cryborg ah si, conozco esta variacion en ingles pero no en espanol. algunos dicen que santa muerte es tambien un angel de la guarda, pero creo que el angel de la guarda es una cosa diferente, pq estaba originalmente una variacion del "daimon personal" de los antiguos griegos y igual no creo que ella es un angel, solo es la muerte

@cryborg wait no, no conozco la variacion de que hablabas en ingles pero la he oido. en ingles la que yo conozco es
angel of God my guardian dear
to whom God's love commits me here
ever this day be at my side
to light and guard
to rule and guide
Amen

@cryborg i like that they both have this cute rhyme pattern

@unmind th rhyme in the englis one is nice