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I think when people venerate lilith as a demon like when they work with qlippoth they miss the point. wanting equality with a man doesn't make a woman a demon.
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that being said look at how cute this demon deck is!! I dont work with demons even cute ones but damn I love the art.
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the guidebook is also AMAZING it gives so much info about correspondences
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@georgia she killed babies or is that just anti lilith propaganda? I'm incluned to believe it's true since she is probably based on lilitu demons from mesopotamia earlier, although I have never heard anyone make the connection the name seems so close
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her portrayal as a demon is literally just demonization
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@sun I thought the story was she wouldnt bow to Adam so she became a demon and sort of a succubus figure that makes men have naughty dreams
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I have this deck, it's very pretty
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@Alex oh ive seen this deck it's nice
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@georgia left-hand path occultbros do not understand Lilith at all but that's also part of how she has remained powerful. stupid midwit men who decided to meddle with magick get vampirized by the succubus titty demon false image of her, real ones know she's so much more
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@sun @georgia

That's a legit etymology connection. Lilith is mainly a feature of Lurianic Kabbalah (Zohar), but was adopted much like Lucifer by Jewish feminists in the modern era.

https://jwa.org/encyclopedia/article/lilith

Dr. Justin Sledge also has a bunch of episodes on Lilith worth watching.

https://youtube.com/channel/UCoydhtfFSk1fZXNRnkGnneQ
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@georgia I wonder how "become a demon" even works, like do you just say it and you're a demon? supposedly she also caused ocean storms by having sex with sea monsters so she seems to have become superhuman
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@toiletpaper @georgia yeah lilitu were noted for flying through the sky at night, they looked for crying babies to kill or they would drop things on people having sex on their roof
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@sun @georgia

I think the earliest mention of her in text is from the story of Inanna and the Huluppu (ie. willow) tree. It prefigures some of the imagery of the garden of Eden, similar to the story of Enki and Ninhursag.

https://inannadumuzi.wordpress.com/inanna-and-the-huluppu-tree/
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@georgia the times I worked with goetia demons went good, quite effective results
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@georgia Doesn't the Judaic Lilith come from a Sumerian demon that prayed on children and pregnant women?
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@sathariel the deck has two extra major arcana cards--Lilith and Lucifer btw
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@scathach I have no idea I havent read her Wikipedia page in years neocat_think_woozy
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