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This is the guy behind the new right and the "trad" movements fueling Trump/MAGA. American Christians are quite possibly the dumbest and most gullible people in human history

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@anemone
> no idea who that is
> click play
> card appears
> immediately loses interest
oh THAT guy 🤮
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@anemone merging with the machine is unironically a grave sin. this man will go to hell for other reasons he doesnt need another.
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@anemone reading Out Of The Silent Planet and The Abolition Of Man back in my orthobro phase taught me everything i needed to know about techbros
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@georgia @anemone out of curiosity, where are you getting that it’s a grave sin from? Not contesting, just curious as to the source
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@georgia @anemone he was already going to hell because he's gay and profits from human suffering so why not
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@arcana @anemone transhumanism is a perversion of yoga, the merger of man and the Supreme Lord. improving health outcomes I'm all for (unless its at cost of fetal or extreme animal life), but immortality? its disgusting. only God is immortal and only yogis attain true immortality in merging with God after they die. merging organic life with a soul with soulless machine is frankly an act of desecration. yoga is already the solution for the "problem" of aging and death.
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@sun@shitposter.world @anemone@ebiverse.social
Uh no I was talking about that dude in the video, Peter Thiel. I've seen his yapping before and this checks out lol.

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@arcana @anemone @georgia if its a grave sin then the religion is cringe. I wanna be able to stick a cpu into my brain to think more
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@dushman @anemone he literally is just expressing the logical outcome of trans, you should be able to change your body any way you want and its not morally wrong. what part do you disagree with
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@georgia @anemone major disagree here, immortality is good and letting yourself die is wrong and foolish. I don’t really care what eastern religions have to say on this personally.

I personally think regenerative immortality through bioengineering is preferable to mechanic means, but immortality should be the goal.
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@georgia @anemone and this is something neither you nor anybody else will ever convince me differently. My earliest memory is knowing that I must become immortal.
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@sun@shitposter.world @anemone@ebiverse.social
I'm gonna rewatch this later I should go get some sleep lol. I'm pretty sure he funded openly anti trans politicians and institutions.

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@arcana @anemone @georgia not only do I not want to die I don't want to get old either
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@arcana @anemone I literally divined for you and found that you will become enlightened. so yes, you will achieve immortality in the only possible way. everything dies but God.
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@sun @anemone @dushman lel. but genuinely I would increase my penis length and width by 2.5x both
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@sun @anemone @georgia That's the way. We are incredibly to close to technology like that though. It's highly possible you'll see it within your life time.
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@georgia @anemone Maybe. We'll see. I know where I stand.
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@sun @dushman @anemone being smart in justification of degeneracy does not make it okay, even if you're extremely adept
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@dushman @sun @anemone pretty much every transhumanist only likes the idea of transhumanism as borderline fantastical pie in the sky horseshit that will never happen in our lifetimes like mind uploading or various other life extension technologies, because they're all redditors who soy out about how it's just like their soft sci-fi media but at the core are all pathetic fragile men who are scared of dying or even of their bodies or their image of a Self ever changing. any actually existing transhumanism is horrifying to them
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@nyx @anemone @dushman imo living longer or being 10x as smart is interesting, gene therapy to modify your sex is interesting, extreme body modification through plastic surgery is kind of horrifying.
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@sun @anemone @dushman
the entire reason trans surgeries etc are necessary is that it's not possible to modify one's brain (among other things) in the way he desires with any technology either current or feasible. he's speaking from a place of fantasy, as further evidenced by the close association with religious fantasists; both parties here are looking for salvational magic and are not willing to put actual effort into chasing their declared goals
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@ageha @anemone @dushman one school of protestant thought is that you can't reach perfection but the best you can reach is acquired through the attempt, unfortunately most american christians have not read a book, let alone the bible, or reinhold niebuhr
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@sun @anemone @dushman wtf does that have to do with anything
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@sun @anemone @dushman idek where to begin with what's wrong with this
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@missfeast @anemone @dushman there is nothing morally wrong with being trans or wanting to change your body
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@sun @anemone @dushman yeah that has nothing to do with anything lmao
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@sun @anemone @dushman @nyx I don’t know if kinda love to drastically alter my body with rat features like that would be so squeaking affirming we just need to destroy the concept of normal human because as a binary it’s rlly rlly restrictive
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@arcana @anemone @georgia literally every day i log onto this site and am reminded why people are not and should not be immortal and definitely need to die at some point.
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@missfeast @anemone @dushman lots of actions and beliefs have logical outcomes that have nothing to do with why people actually believe them
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@rowb1t @anemone @georgia Just because you hate yourself doesn't mean others should. You and your kind will fade into obscurity.
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@arcana @anemone @georgia @sun i'd like to be immortal myself, but nice bonus points if my mom can too
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@georgia @anemone @arcana ah, that reminds me i had asked arcana for something like that for my birthday but i forgot 💀
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@sun @anemone @dushman I'm gonna be real with you I am way too fucking sleep deprived today, and have work to do and various other things stressing me out and don't even know why I responded to this, but I am going to channel that indiscriminate aggression into this reply right now and say that you have no fucking idea what you're talking about and are doing the same midwit transhumanist discourse as every other transhumanist retard who really likes to talk about how we're two weeks away from being able to live forever in vast underground pleasure domes while not having a basic understanding of how trans healthcare works but still deciding to offer your worthless uninformed opinions on it. hell, it's not even trans stuff specifically, it's the entire concept of sex that is retarded deflection; sex is literally not even a real thing, it's like six different biomarkers that are all arbitrarily put into different categories to control people's behavior. you don't need to do fucking gene therapy or some other pie in the sky sci-fi bullshit to change your sex, and the incessant focus on surgeries (especially the insistence that it has anything to do with plastic surgeries which is a whole other can of worms) is just a projection of cis neuroticism about how if you change your body for real then the body has become something fake and artificial. I would wager that a good portion of trans ppl already have intersex chromosome disorders that haven't been diagnosed because it's not worth the money for most people to go out of their way to do that, and taking hormones literally does change your sex on a biological level; your endocrine system affects like every fucking part of your body and it changes so much over long periods of time that we only have anecdotal data for right now because the medical establishment is full of excessive conservatism.

all these transhumanist faggots who talk about how in the future we can change our bodies to be whatever we want or live forever or whatever the fuck but then don't even bother to research what is actually being done today to make that a reality are either posers or repressing something and it's fucking pathetic. none of these people should be allowed to live forever because they are fucking midwit soy faggot losers

/mute thread
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@nyx @sun @anemone @dushman ha ha i like it when nyx is just like *nope. hands on keyboard now send post*
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@anemone "I don't respect trans people but I sexually identify as a cyborg" is basically his take here
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@nyx @anemone @dushman @sun no one escapes entropy, we will all die and be forgotten one day and that's beautiful
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@nyx @anemone @dushman @sun they can't even get a vaccine without it being too scary and experimental so I'm not sure who TF they're trusting to do these fictional body mods
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@eris@yourwalls.today i just cant get over that he's trying to argue that becoming a robot and uploading a copy of your mind into a computer so you can live forever is ackshually the most based and trad and christian thing you can do

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@eris@yourwalls.today his argument seems to be that transgender body modification isn't extreme enough

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@anemone @eris it literally just makes a robot that seems like you while your soul moves on into some hell for hubris
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@georgia@netzsphaere.xyz @eris@yourwalls.today I don't think he believes in souls and tbh he might not have one

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@anemone @eris i think it's more like "uploading our minds to computers will do the thing that your christianity and transgenderism are just pale shadows of"
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@eris @anemone imagine someone "uploading themselves" and their entire estate is now under the control of a shitty chatgpt chatbot that is now a legal person for all purposes except the experiential and ontological
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@apophis @anemone I feel like it would really only amount to an abomination that imitates human consciousness while the actual person just fucking dies lol
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@eris @anemone weekend at bernie's but as true existential horror
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@anemone
Very interesting take that trans people aren't trying to do too much, but rather too little.
Also I think "God's grace" can take many forms. There's this popular joke about a man on a deserted island who keeps rejecting rescue efforts, saying "God will save me". But when he eventually starves, he asks God why he didn't save him, to which the response is "I sent you two ships and a helicopter, what more do you want?"

Christians expect that God's will is gonna manifest as some supernatural force, when most likely it'll be as a consequence of either nature or man-made efforts.

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@mischievoustomato
Good luck finding a girl with a pussy that deep.

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@sun @missfeast @anemone @dushman Troonism is very much like communism: there's nothing morally wrong with the concept, but every time it's tried, tens of millions are killed. If either them is morally wrong depends on how okay you are with the inevitable outcome.
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@mischievoustomato
Just another inch or two, darling~
That's still plenty to put in someone's mouth 😋

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@mischievoustomato
Ok cool let's fuck so you burn all that fat. XD

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prior to the invention of gender in 2012 the world had a population of over 200 billion. today, it's a mere 7 billion due to trans people. and yet the overpopulation crisis still has not been solved. we still need to invent more genders to save the world.
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