aging and death are good actually

@georgia they just don’t happen soon enough for some people

@georgia trvthnvke I can't wait to die

@nyx what do you want to be reincarnated as

@georgia i wish i could die, but at least i get to age
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@georgia I'm trying to escape the cycle of reincarnation but if I had to come back it'd probably be as a very simple organism, like a jellyfish or a cnidarian, a fungus or bacteria or slime mold. or an amoeba! something like that. I think I would be living my best life. if I had to be reincarnated as a more complex organism I would wanna be a cat or a snake obviously.

I don't know if religions that believe in reincarnation have any equivalent of the Daoist belief that everything in the world is inhabited by various spirits, and as far as I know Daoists generally don't believe in reincarnation so much as think that what happens to you after you die depends on how you've lived your life (i.e. compounding the golden elixir). but I think my ideal if I didn't get to pass on to the next world and be one with my goddess/es would be to be a water spirit of some sort (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nixie_(folklore))

@nyx thats rad. i want liberation also.

@georgia as a living organism whose objective it is is to continue living hard disagree

@kirby trvthnvke you will continue living, just not as the same person. if youre good your next life will probably be better!

@georgia tell that to a single celled organism

@kirby okay I'll tell the bacteria inside me

@kirby @georgia its agood thing its impossible to kill me ill never die. Jk im a scarlet rot fan ALL must rot

@georgia @kirby what do u think ill be resurrected as¿

@georgia Aging is evil but death is good

@georgia have you ever actually watched someone slowly die of cancer or dementia, or take your pick of any other disease? it's a part of life. we'll see if you still think it's good when you're in your 80s

@meowski I think I will

@georgia aging and dying are diseases which will soon be cured imo

@meowski only if we exploit animals and poor people

@georgia with mastery of biochemistry and genetics, super-intelligent AI, and so forth (the singularity) we'll be free of a lot of these animal constraints including needing to eat food.

@georgia I can't agree on aging, but dying is good

@meowski except in the case of enlightened mystics immortality always comes with a price and that price will likely be "eugenics" and unethical stem cell experimentation, or even exploitation of clones, or complete loss of humanity to machine existence. a machine can never truly understand because it doesnt have a soul. the singularity will thus be a total disaster.

@georgia i want to live forever

@paula8 you already will in a way, your consciousness (soul) is eternal. but the "you" part though, ahamkara, the i-maker, is transient.

@georgia From a macro perspective yes, but there's still a huge margin for how much control we should have over the process.

@nerthos I think sunscreen is good but retinol is vanity, for instance

@georgia The sun is the great enemy, destroying our DNA with its rays of evil, hiding behind the celestial sea like some sort of helium-based englishman.

As for skin care, I consider anything that increases the actual health of the organ good, and anything that simply masks the damage as pointless. We're right at the edge of pushing 150 or 200 years lifespan though. It can be a reality within a timeframe that can be useful to our generation.

Now it's true that 200+ years of life is completely unsustainable for the masses, but there are people who can hugely benefit from it and benefit the species itself by doing it. We don't need a 180 year old carjacker, but a 180 year old healthy heart surgeon or engineer or theologian is a great asset.

@scathach @georgia maintaining hrt is kind of an advantage there (e2 increases collagen, prog is neuroprotective)

but idk memories of my life before i transitioned are just disconnected fragments and i can’t verbally describe most of it. it’s worse than just being depressed; i feel robbed of what could’ve been years of experiences and personal growth. think it’s fair if i live and look young a bit longer to make up for some of that

@mia @scathach my mom is on e and prog after menopause and while it makes a difference in theory its definitely not a big one

@georgia the future can be whatever we make of it. loss of humanity is one possible trajectory that some of the technology is on but i am still hopeful that we'll become more human, more conscious and not just zombified automatons.

it's possible that we could enhance our biology, cure disease and extend life through genetics without becoming machines, and it doesn't have to be through eugenics (coersive population control or selective breeding) either. it can happen through gene editing on an individual level.

it's a lot easier in theory to edit the genes of one zygote, but i think eventually we'll also be able to do it across entire organisms using vectors like viruses or nanotech that can spread into all your cells and repair and rewrite the genome as needed. super-intelligent AI can enable this for us.

@georgia@netzsphaere.xyz nope

@georgia @scathach those are prescribed at way lower dosages for postmenopausal hrt, typically 1-2mg oral/day for estradiol which is has terrible bioavailability and is basically nothing when you don’t have ovaries to begin with. i was on 6-8mg sublingual and it didn’t have nearly as much of an effect on my skin as injections

@mia @scathach eh I'll choose to age gracefully without worrying about my levels, the old women in my family are really beautiful

@georgia @scathach yeah of course

i’m not on hrt to stay young either; that’s more like a side effect to me.