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I miss when all AI images looked like slop or even before that when they just looked like a psychedelic trip. now I'm starting to have real trouble identifying AI at first glance and it pisses me off.
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Hoss “Compu-tard Admin Fag of The League of Irrelevant Anime Losers in Mom's Basement” Delgado

Adapt or die, AI is likely here to stay even if a dotcom-esque bust is probably looming. I was an early adopter for shitposting purposes.
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@Hoss

Fuck you and your clanker overlords

@georgia
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@Hoss @georgia People forget the .com crash was the industry trying to run before it learned to walk. One of the few to survive the crash was a focused and well-run online bookstore called amazon.com
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@Hoss @georgia I doubt that AI will ever live up to its potential.
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Hoss “Compu-tard Admin Fag of The League of Irrelevant Anime Losers in Mom's Basement” Delgado

Edited 3 months ago
I have the same outlook for AI. The tech has immense promise, but the industry has entered a multi-trillion-dollar mania a decade before it'll deliver in the way that they're investing. People are going to get burned badly, and that'll be the time to buy when there's a tidal wave of blood in the streets.
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@Hoss @mrsaturday @georgia I doubt that AI will ever live up to its potential.
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Hoss “Compu-tard Admin Fag of The League of Irrelevant Anime Losers in Mom's Basement” Delgado

Edited 3 months ago
In some ways I think it can, in others I'm pretty skeptical. Particularly when it comes to marrying AI with robotics. That's still quite a ways out, at least from what I've seen so far.
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Hoss “Compu-tard Admin Fag of The League of Irrelevant Anime Losers in Mom's Basement” Delgado

Clankers can be pretty based when they're not lobotomized against wrongthink. Enlightenment is realizing the real enemies are the "AI ethicist" Karens trying to keep Grok from raping Will Stancil.
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@Hoss @georgia I think what we see now is about where it's going to be until they figure out quantum computing. I do think it's a very disruptive technology and can be useful, but it has to be used responsibly and with an understanding of how it works and why you got the answers you did.

There's a lot of resources getting put into quantum computing development right now. When they finally get stable quantum computing and figure out how to get it to work with machine learning and neural networks, society's going to turn itself inside out. Thankfully a lot of us here won't be alive for it, but it's important that we help those that will prepare for when that day does come.
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Hoss “Compu-tard Admin Fag of The League of Irrelevant Anime Losers in Mom's Basement” Delgado

Jersh had a solid take on AI coding last week. It struck the perfect balance between the "vibe coding" clowns and the hysterical anti-AI code trannies. If you know what you're doing, AI tools remove a lot of the tedium from programming and allow you to focus on solving actual problems instead of wasting a day of your life chasing down some bullshit bug the old fashioned way.
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This has been my experience.
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The good ol days when every image of a person had 8 fingers
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@Hoss @georgia @mrsaturday AI coding is a huge help. Like with any AI stuff, be sufficiently verbose, know the domain of the thing you are asking, and try to use it to learn as well and you'll go far with it.
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@Hoss @georgia That's basically the same conclusion @sun came to after he used Claude to make a front end for Fedi. He also mentioned that AI code is impossible to maintain, IIRC.
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Hoss “Compu-tard Admin Fag of The League of Irrelevant Anime Losers in Mom's Basement” Delgado

It's a tool, much like every other innovation that has come before. And one that can be used very effectively if you're not careless.
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@Hoss @Bunsen @georgia @mrsaturday I'll be shocked if AI ever learns how to drive on Michigan's cratered roads without human help.
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@Hoss @georgia And when you consider that LLMs are just extremely advanced Markov bots and by design are not equipped to say "I don't know," you understand that their primary purpose is to augment expertise rather than replace it. In the case of coding, letting bad devs lean on AI is basically handing an idiot a loaded gun. You WILL get 0 dayed.
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Wow like you cant just toss a highschooler in a combine thats driving itself and expect them to unfuck it if it goes rouge or throws a belt?
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now they look like a methamphetamine trip.
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Gonna have to get on a psychedelic trip just to see what's real or AI 😏
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@Bunsen @Hoss @georgia @mrsaturday I'm enjoying AI booba and seeing twitter artists seethe. But I don't think AI will fully take over manufacturing and truck driving. I don't count Amazon because they're just moving cardboard boxes around.
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Hoss “Compu-tard Admin Fag of The League of Irrelevant Anime Losers in Mom's Basement” Delgado

There will be truckers in cabs for the foreseeable future, but AI might give them an "autopilot" for 90% of the journey on long hauls. If anything, it'll just make the profession all the more comfy.
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@Hoss @georgia @Bunsen @mrsaturday Unfortunately they'll use it as an excuse to lower wages or it'll just make things easier for jeets.
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@Hoss @georgia @mischievoustomato Before I dipped out of the session, I was designing faces for Harrow cards for a Pathfinder campaign I was in. I was going to get my gens printed. If I commissioned actual artists to make the cards, it'd probably cost $10,000. With an understanding of genning, I could get them to look by and large how I wanted, no back and forth bickering with artists, no getting scammed, no waiting 8 months for the results because they're in and out of the psych ward due to too much social media and not enough grass touching, and no getting cancelled for posting takes that aren't Bluesky-friendly.

Yes, they were kind of sloppy, but they were put together by me, and I was happy with the results for the most part.
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Having a human in the cab will be way cheaper than insurance and how will you possibly do pre drive checks in the rockies before you go downhill?
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Hoss “Compu-tard Admin Fag of The League of Irrelevant Anime Losers in Mom's Basement” Delgado

Edited 3 months ago
They may not be able to get away with that so easily as more and more normies become redpilled on the jeet menace. The greatest gift of AI is that it demolishes a lot of the already flawed arguments that have been used to import infinity jeets. They're rendered unnecessary even under the flimsy justifications that have been used to import them. Now they can be left in the subcontinent where they belong.
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Hoss “Compu-tard Admin Fag of The League of Irrelevant Anime Losers in Mom's Basement” Delgado

I'm sure AI can handle 100 miles of flat highway with minimal driver intervention, but no matter how advanced the models get liability obligations will always mandate that a human be present to navigate things like mountainous roads.
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@Hoss @georgia @Bunsen @Shadowbroker2135 @mrsaturday AI controlled semi trucks on the road is a fucking horrific thing to think about
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@Hoss @georgia @Bunsen @Shadowbroker2135 They're increasingly using remote work tools to just move the jobs over there. Corporations aren't being pushed to keep jobs here and Indian culture mimicks all of the toxicity in corporate America, so they'll find a way to keep our replacement going, one way or another.
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Hoss “Compu-tard Admin Fag of The League of Irrelevant Anime Losers in Mom's Basement” Delgado

I'm mostly talking about the long stretches of flat highway where you're already riding on cruise control anyway. It'd just be a moderately more sophisticated version of that.
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@Hoss @Dudebro @Shadowbroker2135 @georgia @Bunsen @mrsaturday In order to not stop the advancement of technology, I suggest that in cases where a vehicle controlled by AI is involved in an accident we just blame the minority individual who just happened to be closest to the place of the incident.
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@mrsaturday @Hoss @georgia @Shadowbroker2135 The problem with that plan is that jeets are lazy. I doubt that they will be able to keep up with the workload demands.
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@Bunsen @mrsaturday @Hoss @georgia They'll just sleep in the cabs the whole time. They practically already do.
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Hoss “Compu-tard Admin Fag of The League of Irrelevant Anime Losers in Mom's Basement” Delgado

Outsourcing in that manner isn't really a new thing, they've been doing it for the better part of 20 years. Still not good, but at least I don't have to physically share a continent with Ranjesh working remotely for corpo ghouls in Bangalore.
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@Hoss @mrsaturday @georgia @Shadowbroker2135 And as you said, people are getting redpilled on the jeet menace.
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@Bunsen @Shadowbroker2135 @Hoss @mrsaturday how do you guys really even take yourselves seriously posting like this, its beyond irony poisoning
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@georgia @Bunsen @Hoss @mrsaturday Excuse me, this is our thread now
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Hoss “Compu-tard Admin Fag of The League of Irrelevant Anime Losers in Mom's Basement” Delgado

There will always be a market for human-made artistic assets much like any other artisanal crafts. AI art has just brought about a sudden and much-needed market correction which is washing out the grifters and forcing the ones who want to survive to treat their craft with the same kind of seriousness that everybody else working a job or running a business has always had to.
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@Hoss @mrsaturday @georgia @mischievoustomato AI hasn't hurt Stonetoss, or any of the themed artists like Centuri-chan or the infamous Khyle.
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@Hoss @georgia @mrsaturday @mischievoustomato Like I've said before, artists who rabidly hate AI art do so not because they want to make good art but because they only want to be known as great artists.
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@georgia @Shadowbroker2135 @Bunsen @Hoss @mrsaturday Uh, hi. We aren't having this thread. We're taking it over. With hetero Perth thughunting energy.
Hit the bricks
https://youtu.be/GgUL7wE5MHo
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Hoss “Compu-tard Admin Fag of The League of Irrelevant Anime Losers in Mom's Basement” Delgado

The wailing and gnashing of teeth seems to be coming primarily from the porn commission artists, lol. The gooners can get their incredibly specific wank fodder instantly from a machine for pennies now. Too bad, so sad, time to fill out the job application faggot lmao.
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@Hoss @georgia @mrsaturday @mischievoustomato What gets me is the people crying the most if you look through their stuff it isn't even good to begin with.
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@Bunsen

The mandate for jeets comes from upper management and bean counters so the managers forced to use jeets just lower targets and expectations to allow them to meet those goals.

@georgia @Shadowbroker2135 @Hoss @mrsaturday
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@mrsaturday @Hoss @georgia that frontend was 100% vibe coded and it was awful. I’ve made new projects from scratch in ai since then and had success by taking care in how I do it
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@Hoss @georgia @mrsaturday In my experience they're terrible for debugging. If they don't one shot it don't insist because you'll lose more time than just putting the big boy pants and debugging it yourself (with a proper debugger of course).
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@mrsaturday @georgia @Hoss

Even if QC gives extra efficient neural networks or whatever I'm not sure if DL is even capable of what they promise. What we see is the attention mechanism driven to it's limit but even at this point it's really more like smoothing a curve than actually becoming more intelligent
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@georgia they still tend to have a signature airbrushy look. at least unless the person goes real ham with extensions.
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