dont understand why you guys shill for ireland so much theyre just white people you should shill for someplace cool like india or thailand or vietnam

@georgia skin color

@georgia

whiteness is a social construct of course but the irish are white europeans. if you want a logically consistent definition of whiteness that doesnt change with time like re jews and italians then the only logical definitions of it are either "not subsaharan african and not east asian and not any asian or sub-saharan african derived indigenous population" in which case arabs, indians (of india) and many other groups considered non-white would be white. or theres the definition which is logically sound but messy of "fair skinned" in which case some arabs are white and others like yemenis arent and some indians like northerners are white but not the tamils.

@georgia it's quite simple. indiginous european people who lived there for 10s of thousands of years. this is a race of people it's not a made up social construct

Ireland's not covered in shit

Kill yourself

@georgia The Irish are European and Catholic and have been targeted by actual, verifiable, unjustified attempts at ethnic cleansing by The Bad Guys ® for a very long time. It's only reasonable to like and defend them, they're our guys, and they were the first to be targeted in the way that all white peoples are now targeted.
Why would we be shilling for other races with historical problems we have nothing to do with? Neutrality is the reasonable position towards distant nations.

Also nice racism lmao "they're just white people that's uncool"

@nerthos the amount of actual racists who are mad at my post just strengthens my resolve. if the irish are "your guys" I'm glad to think theyre lame. I have nothing against Catholics of course I think theyre way better than prots

@georgia but the funny little ginger elves with pots of lucky charms

@georgia You're the racist here though, trying to downplay the shit they've been put through because "they're just white".
"genocide bad when it's against me, but it's lame to complain about it when it's against whites", right?
The Irish are "our guys" in the sense of common continental roots, it has nothing to do with ideology. Anyone not insane would feel sympathy for a nation related to theirs be it in blood or faith that suffered repeated attempts at being wiped.

@nerthos you are really overstating things the irish potato famine is only considered a genocide by some scholars

@nerthos and to call me racist when ive never argued for the persecution and genocide of a people is apical hypocrisy coming from you

@georgia "It's not genocide if the powers that be don't agree it is"
The potato famine certainly wasn't the only attempt at getting rid of the Irish, nor was it the only abuse they were put through. If there's one nation in Europe that got shit on without deserving it, it's them.

Sun Tzu 7:35.

This is clearly bait.

Ok, that's enough bait poasting.

@georgia i'm not gonna be sad when iran drone strikes you

@georgia You are racist though. I am too, the difference is that I openly admit it, and ground my liking or disliking of each specific group based on their actions through history, their values and culture, and how hostile and invasive they are (being evil and staying in their own area being evil to themselves is ok though, sentinel island gets a pass), rather than their colour; meanwhile you try to find weird justifications and excuses to claim you aren't.

I'm the kind of racist that throws a stone and yells "it was me, and this is why it was a righteous action", you're the kind that throws a stone and goes "I don't throw stones! look at my flabby arms, plus only some scholars agree that a stone was thrown!"

Whenever I've argued for the extermination of anything, it's because every other solution has been attempted and only made things worse.

@georgia

@georgia @nerthos the English were shooting children in the streets. Not to agree with nerthos because I think actual racism is retarded but the irish were culturally replaced, displaced, occupied, and shot dead for centuries. the only actual case of white genocide that ever happened. I'm sure if Great Britain had missiles they would've been blowing up childrens hospitals too. Erased the language starting centuries before the potato famine. imprisoned and killed irish for speaking irish.

@georgia TL;DR you don't get to change the definition of racism to go "it applies to you but not to me"

@georgia @nerthos the Irish weren't even catholic until england beat that into them with force and when they finally embraced it the english became scum sucking prots and subjugated the irish for being catholic.

@georgia @nerthos irish gaelic was a functionally dead language for a hundred years. irish children were killed with impunity for centuries because Great Shitain wanted their land. the potato famine was evil but it wasnt even top 20 of horrible things the irish were subjected to by amoral colonial genociders

@nerthos @georgia the redefinition of racism was promised to her 3000 years ago

@nerthos I'm not actually anti-white though I just think "white culture" has been celebrated enough like beating a dead horse. the irish diaspora are prominent in major powerful institutions they are a successful minority to the point of fully assimilating. saying a country isnt cool isnt racism. and extermination of a people is literally never justified no matter how you spin it. you are only righteous in your own conceit, far more noble are racists who know theyre hateful people and that hate is wrong. this is like you calling me a misandrist because i occasionally passive aggressively post about males when I would never argue for the actual oppression of men and literally all of my friends are male or male at birth.

@vriska @georgia @nerthos i think there were similar things done to the prussians

I mean, saying "X race people aren't cool" is actually for-real textbook racist. You don't have to want every singe member of a race literally be murdered to harbor a prejudice about them.

@vriska @nerthos you make a fair point but i think if the issue is who is a victim of the British and who is the victim of racism then indians were victims of terrible colonial plundering and are subjected to racism more than anyone today except perhaps the roma

@nicholas @nerthos I said Ireland isnt a cool country actually. most countries arent cool imo

@georgia Every people should celebrate their own achievements. White culture is celebrated in white countries just like indian culture is celebrated in india or chinese culture is celebrated in china. Yet there's never a complaint towards the indians, "you've been celebrating yourselves like beating a dead horse for 5000 years bro, stop, it's getting old", it's only towards whites, in their own nations. That's being anti-white, you demand of white people things that you don't demand of other races.

The irish diaspora have people in prominent institutions because they went through all the bullshit and difficulties required to climb there despite the hurdles deliberately put in their way to prevent that from happening, in the same way that say, german immigrants in north america or italian immigrants in south america were treated like second class citizens when they arrived, but instead of fighting with everyone over it they started business and participated in society so by the time their children were adults everyone else considered them part of the core population and didn't differentiate them anymore. They worked to assimilate, instead of putting in the effort to separate themselves from others. Assimilating to a land you migrated to is an achievement, not a point of criticism.

I don't argue for extermination on the grounds of "I don't like their colour or how they were born", I argue for the use of violence to destroy any and all threats to my people and to humanity in general, regardless of their race. Even in the case of jews, God's great hurdle, I am fine with the orthodox guys that just want to stay in their villages praying, and with the ones who chose to convert and ditch their ancestors' beliefs to pursue something better, it is the actions and beliefs of the invasive ones and of israelis that require fighting against. It's not a "what race you were born as" thing, it's a "what beliefs and actions do you support" thing. There comes a point when dealing with certain groups when enough chances were given and the good will was taken advantage of every time, and strength of arms is required.

See a more distant to you example: Argentina's campaign against the Mapuches. 200 years of them massacring the natives of the southern cone, killing the men and taking the women and children for themselves, years of attacks against Buenos Aires in which they again murdered the men and took thousands of women captive to rape and enslave, and hundreds of thousands of heads of cattle stolen. Argentina's government made three separate treaties with them, giving them tribute and drawing borders, which they accepted each time and then immediately disregarded to continue their attack as soon as they were paid. After the third time, Argentina gathered the funds and the men for a campaign of extermination and pushed them all the way to Chile, recovered the captives and the cattle. And the surviving native tribes that had previously been victims of the Mapuches joined the Argentinian army, fought together, and were given land as recognition and reward for their cooperation. This bought us about 120 years of peace, and yet the descendants of the Mapuches are now carrying out terrorist attacks in Chile and Argentina, funded by British NGOs, their thanks for not being completely exterminated. In this case, clearly, full extermination is the correct path, they have proven themselves deserving of it, and unable to coexist even when given every opportunity.

I am not conceited. You usually assume bad faith from me, but if there's one thing that has always defined me is that I am always honest and my opinions and beliefs are in open display. Any belief I hold I will give the reasons for if asked.

@georgia @vriska It's not "oppression olympics" though, there's no gold medal here, it's a binary of whether a nation was subjected to extermination or not.

@nerthos except im not personally against any European person for being European I'm against whiteness as an oppressive social construct that divides peoples within and without. I think you have made some assumptions as to what motivated my initial post what I was criticizing was not irish people supporting Ireland but (often third-worldist) leftists unusual fixation with Ireland a white christian first world western country. it strikes me as odd and against the spirit of supporting a multipolar world. as an alternative I argued that certain "developing" countries should be celebrated more. I dont know about the situation of the mapuches but I'm 100 percent sure that a people rejecting treaties and comitting terrorism doesnt justify genocide and never has, just as the Israeli genocide against Gaza isnt justified or the chinese oppression of the uyghurs.

@georgia @nerthos insane take

@georgia White people have every right to have a concept of whiteness for themselves, and run their countries however they want. A "multipolar world" built on focaultist ideas of marginality and "who's more oppressed?" is an atrocity, that in oligarchic fashion tiny minorities want to enforce upon a majority that doesn't want it, and have consistently failed at doing despite massive resources being dedicated to it and extreme support from institutions and governments, because the people just don't want anything to do with it and the very moment the threat of violence isn't absolute, people undo it.
Ireland deserves celebration because despite the constant attempts at destruction against them over centuries, they managed to make it to "white christian first world western country" as you put it, the quality of life standard everyone wants to have regardless of how much they complain about whiteness.

>I'm 100 percent sure that a people rejecting treaties and comitting terrorism doesnt justify genocide and never has

Tell me, if neither leaving them alone, diplomacy, tribute, nor displacement has worked, what solution do you propose? Everything except total extermination has been tried, and the result to every attempt has them continuing to carry out unjustified violence against everyone else. Should everyone else just lay down and take it? let themselves be killed and raped and set on fire?
The other difference between the case of the Mapuches and that of the Israeli genocide of Gaza or the Chinese genocide of Uyghurs is that the Mapuches had their own land and carried out genocidal expansion, and were destroyed by the people they tried to conquer and enslave. In the other two cases, it's the invader committing the genocide, not the ones being destroyed.
If the Palestinians ended up invading Israel and wiping it out, or the Uyghurs did the same to China, or if the Irish had ended up overpowering and wiping out the English, I'd go "lmao that was poetic, nice"

@nerthos @georgia maybe they could define strict borders, remove illegal policing forces and stop letting people settle in other peoples homes? They haven’t really tried that.

@technolyze @georgia That's what was done in the 1800s. They had all the land south of Buenos Aires (about 0.5% of all the world's land surface), which they had taken by murdering the local tribes, to do whatever they wanted in, and our forces didn't cross that border. They still attacked us repeatedly for plunder and rape.

@georgia @nerthos thread reminds me of when an irish friend of mine was chatting up this super woke girl at uni and she started by talking about how bad racism was and how he wouldn't understand as a white guy until he agreed and mentioned how much anti-black, anti-roma racism he'd see whenever he was back in Ireland and suddenly she spun on a dime and started explaining how the irish were basically POC, almost mixed-race to him.

@georgia @nerthos yeah im going to be real, as dumb as the modern day fetishism of ireland is, it was basically an apartheid country that got regularly ethnically cleansed every now and again by successive british rulers up until a couple of centuries ago

@nerthos I'm not a postmodernist I use multipolar to mean "more than one superpower and many great powers". and historically whiteness is not something people use within their own communities but is something specifically designed to oppress others, therein lies a key distinction.

@nerthos @georgia the bugs?

@georgia @nerthos >only considered a genocide by some scholars

jesus christ

@scathach @nerthos bro its not even in the wikipedia article list of genocides and they stay up to date and have both genocides and genocidal massacres

@scathach @nerthos they include the trail of tears so it can't be argued that its anglo-american bias either

@georgia @nerthos This is the most retarded and morally gross thing you've ever posted

@scathach @nerthos you could argue your case or continue to attack me personally

@georgia @nerthos Have you considered using your brain and moral reasoning faculties to look at the event, look at the definition of "genocide" and come to your own conclusion?

@scathach @georgia @nerthos how dare you question the experts. get back in the pod

@georgia @nerthos "the irish potato famine occupation of Palestine is only considered a genocide by some scholars."

@georgia @nerthos from what I can gather the chinese attack on uyghurs was because a subset of the muslim population there was becoming extremist from influence from saudi arabia and most of what china did was breaking the back of the extremist movement. I'm not justifying anything but usually it's presented like they didn't do anything wrong and china just decided to be a hardass. foreign elements were promoting violence and disunity. or something, just what I've read.

@scathach @nerthos sorry but all of you are just using modern revisionist history motivated by irish nationalism. I read the wikipedia article in full. feel free to be outraged by genocide is intentional destruction of a people.

@rowb1t @nerthos it is so cute how you think youre not a white first worlder

@scathach @nerthos honestly I was ambivalent before and could go either way but after reading about it like you suggested I dont believe it was a genocide

@georgia @nerthos @rowb1t do you consider Jews to be white

@georgia @nerthos i am a white first-worlder you fucking idiot. are you suggesting that ireland was a first-world country in the 1840s, when the island was a wholly-owned colony of the british and the entire concept of the "first world" wouldn't exist for a hundred years?

@georgia Well if you want a return to the old ways of many powers with none able to fight several of the others at once, that I can certainly agree with, it's what I want too.

"historically whiteness is not something people use within their own communities but is something specifically designed to oppress others" sounds like academicist slop tbh. I don't subscribe to these ideas of crypto-revenge, they're underhanded and attempt to charge people for supposed wrongs they took no part of.

@georgia @nerthos @rowb1t this thread sucks im using my wodk powers to tell you all to log off

@georgia @scathach "wikipedia is not a source" is elementary school level stuff.

@georgia @nerthos @scathach yeah, wikipedia doesn't call the Bengali famine a genocide either 🙄 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bengal_famine_of_1943

@nyx @nerthos @rowb1t I personally consider Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews (who are both descended from a mix of levantines (paternally) and southern euros (maternally) to be like southern Italians, white. I consider mizrahi jews to be non-white since Arabs and arameans/assyrians are not considered white and mizrahi jews are descended from levantines paternally and other middle easterners maternally.

@rowb1t @georgia @nerthos @scathach I don’t think they consider the partition of India a genocide either though it just categorically was 😭

@rowb1t @georgia @nerthos hey i wonder how it came to be that the paddy wagon was named and why there's an association between the irish and cops and what the process of folding a culture into the icoherent genocidal colonial in-club we refer to as whiteness hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

@georgia @nerthos @nyx this is the most race science i've seen in one paragraph in years.

@kittenlikeasmallcat @georgia @rowb1t The Irish have a historical affinity to wielding clubs, so employement as cops made sense tbh

@nerthos @georgia @kittenlikeasmallcat bro shut your racist ass up we don't need you here.

@OneRatOneVerySmallTrenchCoat @nerthos @rowb1t @scathach I'm very pro-india and no one can deny that but I'm not sure whether I'd consider it a genocide, I should read more about it. the Bangladeshi genocide is on there though which is proper.

@rowb1t @georgia @kittenlikeasmallcat I would tell you to suck my dick but I don't want to have to disinfect it after, you're the one who jumped into this thread in which I argued against Irish genocide erasure. If you don't like it 1v1 me IRL, shillelaghs only.

@georgia @nerthos @rowb1t @scathach I am not pro India I pro the ethnic groups that are in the Hindi occupied occupied Indian subcontinent and I consider a genocide it was a fucking mass displacement of religious communities that existed In the same places for fucking years one of my grandmothers childhood friends starved on a British train

@rowb1t @nerthos @nyx ethnogenesis is real race is a construct. Europeans try to make jews neatly fit a race or religion categories which they are familiar with but like the Druze and Samaritans jews are more of a tribe than anything.

@nerthos @georgia @kittenlikeasmallcat don't need help defending the erasure of genocide from someone who claims to be a victim of "anti-white" racism, a thing that doesn't fucking exist. kill yourself.

@rowb1t @georgia @kittenlikeasmallcat Statistically I'll survive you. Now get off my network, I've been here for almost 15 years and don't need your colonialism.

@georgia @nerthos @rowb1t alternatively id like to join and say that claiming that the irish potato famine a genocide honestly isnt that outlandish. people at the time viewed it as being caused by the government and as being cruel. now it was largely driven by the system of heavy extraction from ireland making a failing potato crop far more devastating, but letting that continue was a real decision people made and understood themselves as making. some used it as an opportunity to force more ‘enlightened’ british ways on the irish. it was explicitly seen a way to destroy an inferior people. the fact that it was mainly driven by apathy doesn’t change that imo. you can disagree ig but i think people underplay the role of apathy in perpetuating massive evils.

i also think youre right that people overhype ireland bc theyre white

@OneRatOneVerySmallTrenchCoat @nerthos @rowb1t @scathach >Hindi occupied Indian subcontinent sorry but what the hell are you talking about

@georgia @nerthos @rowb1t @scathach if you don’t consider the fucking fact a Hindi superstate exists to be colonialism what are you even on

@lizzie @nerthos @rowb1t imo the overhype of Ireland because theyre white is similar to communist people who hype east germany instead of Cuba or Vietnam

@georgia @lizzie @nerthos the reason why so many leftists talk about Ireland is because it was the literal model for European colonialism that was later exported across the globe. the entire concept of a white race was influenced by the Crown's efforts to suppress irish culture and language. and people continue to hype up ireland because even now, as a (mostly) independent "first-world" country (though tbh the RoI was an economic shithole until the '90s), Ireland continues to be the only consistently anti-colonial voice in Europe. FFS they're not even in NATO.

You specified it was the race of the people who live there that you found objectionable about the place, not the other way around. If that was not your intent, a clarification or apology might be in order rather than a doubling-down 🤷‍♀️

@nerthos @georgia @rowb1t The thing is that white isn't and has never been a hereditary or cultural group. It's an invented group defined by historical power that includes and excludes people according to its convenience. This doesn't mean it's fake in that it doesn't matter or isn't something that defines people's entire fucking lives, it means that the people who decide who lives and who dies made it up in order to consolidate power-over anyone who isn't white, or isn't white enough, or isn't white yet. It's not a culture or a tribe or an ethnicity.

Now in the present day we can trace an uninterrupted line from the oldest colonialist and imperialist fascism of rome into england into ireland into turtle island which sprawls folding back into itself. My question to you is if you're aligned with white values - you know, the grok south africa thing, the transphobia, the pedophile rights thing, what the fuck ever else chuddy dumb fuck fascist grifter bullshit psyop cult BULLSHIT constitutes "white culture" how much does it matter if you're also marginalized in some way by them?

I'd advise you to look into irish and italian, &c history in ameriKKKa, and accounts of how these cultures were subsumed.

oh and also to kill yourself but like that's neither here nor there

@rowb1t @lizzie @georgia @nerthos the Irish struggle still goes on in occupied Northern Ireland today and the stories I heard from my ex were insane. Discrimination for having a Gaelic or Catholic name etc.

The Irish have historically sympathized with Indigenous people's struggle for sovereignty world wide.

@georgia @nerthos @scathach "I read the wikipedia article in full." Is not the flex you think it is.

What word we use to describe what is in effect, in my informed opinion a genocide doesn't matter. Knowing the details of what took place, why, and how, does.

Also hey does anyone know where potatoes are native to? hmmmmmmmmmmmm

@OneRatOneVerySmallTrenchCoat @nerthos @rowb1t @scathach not sure why im talking to someome openly "anti-india" but the fact that you consider the Hindi people to be colonialists of any kind because of the controversial partition of india which saw death and displacement on both sides is certainly a unique take. they are not occupying or creating colonies in other parts of india that are tamil or gujarati or bengali. they are just a plurality of indians with a prestige culture and dialect. Hindustani people have prominence in both india and Pakistan, creating hindi culture in india and Urdu culture in Pakistan. do you consider Pakistan to be "occupied" by the urdu-speaking people? or do you consider Pakistan preferable because it has one major ethnoreligious group instead of india which tries to emulate a secular ideal (before modern hindu nationalism) while being pan-hindu and sikh and muslim? is there an article that states your opinion you could link me? I have mostly read about the history of india before British colonialism

@georgia @lizzie @nerthos @rowb1t I can see where you're coming from but the Philippino New Democratic movement is currently the most advanced communist revolution, not Cuba or Vietnam. Not downplaying their achievements but as it currently stands parts of the PH are active warzones.

The ND movement instills an impressive amount of political education onto its youth and this goes back generations if you have ever talked to families involved.

@nerthos @georgia @rowb1t >implying you have ever washed your dick

@georgia @nerthos @rowb1t @scathach I consider neither to be to preferable because they are artificial states based on religion rather then culture? My family are from Punjab and Rajasthan at least of half of those people are like ppl that profit directly artificial that was propped by the British in what is India . I think ANY state based on religion and religious values is inherently fucked up Punjab is SPLIT IN HALF

@kittenlikeasmallcat @nerthos @scathach oh I'm not claiming reading a wikipedia article is a flex just saying that I did what she asked of me

@OneRatOneVerySmallTrenchCoat @georgia @nerthos @scathach yeah the state of India is pretty fucking rough right now. Hindi ethnonationalism fueled by fears of the CCP on their doorstep.

@georgia @nerthos @rowb1t @scathach also India does not try to emulate the secular ideal and they haven’t for fucking 60 years what are you on about

@georgia @nerthos @rowb1t @scathach like the fucking Kashmir separatists wouldn’t exist if it was a secular state or or the Khalistan movement or the naxalites

@OneRatOneVerySmallTrenchCoat @nerthos @rowb1t @scathach oh it makes sense that youre punjabi the punjab saw the most violence and displacement from the partition iirc. I'm really sorry for assuming smh

@georgia @nerthos @rowb1t @scathach or the Tamil Tigers and all of the other separatist groups 😞

@georgia @nerthos @scathach when you force exports of large amounts of food from a place undergoing a famine and then refuse to alleviate any famine distress explicitly because it was a divine punishment and justified due to the Irish lacking moral character then it's not a genocide and the reason my ancestors had to flee ireland was pic related

@georgia @nerthos @kittenlikeasmallcat @scathach reading is hard work, I once read 10 Wikipedia articles in one night and had to go the hospital from overpediaing

@kittenlikeasmallcat @rowb1t I am aligned with white values: truth, honor, virtue, progress. With the identity of my people and their heritage. I am an enemy of evil whatever colour it might have, you included, hateful aberration that you are, turning and twisting in impotent rage like a snake that poisoned itself. You wish for my death but you would cry and run if you were in front of me, forced to kill me or die fist to fist. That is, above any dissent of ideology, the difference between us: I need no support or backing to enforce my existence, I am by my own merit. You will forever cower and cry, aware that you can only exist as long as someone mightier than you protects you. Yelling "kill yourself!" to people over the internet but having a panic attack at the idea of someone showing up at your door, throwing a knife at your feet while holding one themselves, and saying "kill me yourself"

@georgia see why I don't accept arguments about my way of thinking and acting? /these things/ are my opponents. See how they act and tell me I'm in the wrong, that I should treat them as peers when they don't show the most basic decency, when they care more about whether I'm white than whether I'm defending the same people they claim to defend. There is no better argument for the righteousness of my path than the gross, overt evil of these enemies that come out of the woodwork to attack me. I don't hold hatred for good people or for innocents, I hold disdain for these horrible creatures in human skin.

@georgia @scathach @shitposter.world @nyx Please I'm begging you go back to the drawing board with absolutely all of this because it's all dripping with not knowing what you're talking about and pulling a ton of misinformed and confused stuff out of either thin air or focused propaganda, in general. More research is desperately, urgently needed, and needed long term.

Look into the perspectives of survivors of colonialism and piss on the perspectives of the colonizers. I'm begging you so much of this is just dumbfounding. Talking about this shit with any detail requires knowing way more.

@rowb1t @nerthos @OneRatOneVerySmallTrenchCoat @scathach I dont see anything wrong with state religions including in states like iran as long as they dont enforce their laws that dont proscribe against evil in itself and the religion is non compulsory but I agree that the BJP is bad. killing animals is bad but killing people for killing cows is adharmic.

@nerthos @georgia @kittenlikeasmallcat

@georgia @nerthos @scathach do you understand why they were only growing potatoes in the first place?

@kittenlikeasmallcat @nyx @scathach I'll just shutup about the subject it seems to be very charged

@kittenlikeasmallcat @nyx @scathach thank you for talking to me like a human being though

@rowb1t @georgia @kittenlikeasmallcat I think sephiroth is a pretty cool guy, he kills big annoying early game bosses and doesn't afraid of anything

@nerthos @georgia @rowb1t This is a copypasta right. Please tell me you didn't just type this embarrassing thou art a foul cur horseshit out of your own head.

Also i know you've thought about killing yourself before i can smell it on you i can tell we can all tell. I feel that part of you is the best and most ethical part left. even if not medically killing youself, you should definitely kill every trace of whatever personality this is cos this is like whoa bud.

@rowb1t @nerthos @kittenlikeasmallcat actually he thinks hes the archangel michael

@kittenlikeasmallcat @georgia @rowb1t

@georgia @kittenlikeasmallcat @rowb1t I don't think I'm the archangel michael, he's just my favourite saint.

@nerthos @georgia @kittenlikeasmallcat

@nerthos @kittenlikeasmallcat @rowb1t I can tell youre trying to be my friend here by claiming common opposition to le ebil trannies but I'm a queer person and jewish and you especially constantly attack me in various ways for the latter

@nerthos @georgia @rowb1t babygirl I go through ego death more often than you wash your dick

@kittenlikeasmallcat @georgia @rowb1t Have you tried the other types of death? Big recommend.

@georgia It's not the tranny identity that's the problem with these guys though, it's everything else. You don't see me fighting with say, scathach, over their gender identity. I don't attack you for having jewish blood either, I attack you specifically when you have the evil sort of jewish opinions, and we never go "lol lmao kill yourself", we argue said opinions regardless of whether we agree or not, like we had been doing in this thread before.

@sun @georgia @nerthos
Tangential thought:
this may be true but I'd encourage you and anyone else to not let your thoughts on that particular matter terminate there.

Yes, sure, those are good sounding reasons/explanations. However, note that the same exact reasons/explanations were given for the Armenian genocide. They're extremists, they are separatists, they support the enemy, they are disloyal, they disrupt unity, they're working with the Russians, among other things.
Were some Armenians involved in such activities? Sure
Were all 1 million+ victims? Of course not
And neither were all tens of thousands displaced.
The real reason was most likely a combination of those excuses mixed with the strong fear of rebellion the ottomans had after (russia-backed) Christian nationalists in the Balkans successfully broke away from the ottoman empire, as well as the desire to steal the wealth of Armenian merchants/bankers to fund their faltering empire

... The point is, good propaganda is based partly on truth, but the whole picture should always be kept in mind

@nerthos @georgia @kittenlikeasmallcat @rowb1t

> white values: truth, honor, virtue, progress

Couldn't read the rest because I'm ded.

@nerthos 💀

@nerthos @georgia @kittenlikeasmallcat @rowb1t "chat write a self-righteous angry internet comment in the style of a copypasta and generate a video of an anime girl saying a slur"

@realpetrateal @georgia @nerthos @kittenlikeasmallcat @rowb1t this is unreal what did I just see

@mirq @georgia @nerthos collective punishment is always wrong but I can guarantee you the pro uyghur message in the west is anti china propaganda regardless of where the truth is.

@sun @nerthos @mirq pro-tibet content isnt anti chinese propaganda though

@georgia @nerthos @mirq sometimes it is and sometimes it is not

@mirq @georgia @nerthos also the reason it seems possibly true to me is every other muslim country had problems with saudi arabian influence promoting extremism. of course that could just be manipulating me too, who knows. it's a distant foreign country

Collectivism is dumb as shit. Race collectivism is dumb as huffing your own shit and thinking it smells good, actually.

@nicholas @georgia @nerthos @rowb1t idk i think a lot of collectivist approaches at certain scales can be a pretty effective practice for certain purposes but yea that guy is a third degree dope

More like aligned with huffing your own farts 🙄

@nicholas @georgia @kittenlikeasmallcat @rowb1t What racial collectivism? You can have your brown countries, I don't want to invade you, just stay on your side of the sandbox.

@monkey @realpetrateal @georgia @nerthos @kittenlikeasmallcat @rowb1t weapons-grade cringe

@sun @georgia @nerthos for sure
I was trying and failing to say just that two things can be true at once is all

@georgia kanging discourse detected
*thread muted*

@sun @georgia @nerthos
To be cynical the islamic terror cell GWOT stuff is basically just an justification of the han cultural replacement project that they did they did the mongols tibetans hui manchu otherwise we would see ccp do something about taliban assisting east turkestan seperatists in regions neighbouring china.

as for reasons why idk ive heard stuff about the gobi desert containing loads of rare earth metals and fossil fuels but idk why they needed to do cultural genocide for that.

@georgia @nerthos how did it go from dont shill for the irish to this lol

@nerthos @georgia @kittenlikeasmallcat @rowb1t this goes hard as fuck