@unmind @georgia i mean tbf the other apostles were convinced at the council of jerusalem. he was a weird guy but he wasnt pulling it out of his ass

@georgia @unmind also that yeah

@georgia i mean He kinda did make it holy is the thing but holiness and bindingness arent the same thing at unless you think it is binding to perform miracles

@georgia this is true and honestly id argue that all good is a miracle in which case its super binding. in terms of visible signs no that is not universally binding but it is holy. you can always generalize an activity to something that is binding, but if you reduce it to particularities then it becomes nonsense to make it binding. the point is that everyone is bound to honor God. it is not universally binding to do so particularly through the jewish law as it is not binding to do so particularly through visible signs.

there are cases where it should be done however which is why paul had a man get circumcised