Torturing myself by watching the entire 5 hour long DHH Lex Fridman episode.
@sunbeam_rider I think it is interesting because his ideas are so far outside of how I think software development actually works that it actually becomes entertaining to see how wrong someone can be.
He genuinely believes that in the last 9 months technology has progressed 20 years and that agentic workflows are so good now that slopcode is so good that you can just publish it for other people to use without looking at it yourself.
@shibao @sunbeam_rider Nah, you’re full of shit or you were a shit programmer before you started vibecoding.
@shibao @sunbeam_rider And? You copypasted that into your prompt and it does the thing? That’s just subjective code style, not architectural decision making.
@shibao @sunbeam_rider I don’t know what the hell you’re even rambling about.
What is a cannery and what is memex? I post a lot of memes but I never of memex.
@shibao @sunbeam_rider Ok, sure but they are infected with slopcode now, aren’t they?
@shibao @sunbeam_rider I didn’t know that’s what you meant. You’re not very clear.
@shibao @sunbeam_rider If they don’t contain slopcode why do both of the projects have AGENTS.md files then?
@shibao @sunbeam_rider All code generated by LLM is in fact slopcode.
It is uncopyrightable poison for your project that will likely make your AGPLv3 license unenforceable.
@SuperDicq @shibao @sunbeam_rider solution: license it mit or make it proprietary and make bank
@mischievoustomato @shibao @sunbeam_rider The MIT Expat license would also not be enforceable, it requires copyright attribution.
Also even if you make it proprietary you can still be sued for stealing code if the slop your LLM spit out turns out to come from another project with incompatible license.
@Suiseiseki @shibao @mischievoustomato @sunbeam_rider You know that’s what I meant, Mr Pedantic.
@SuperDicq @shibao @sunbeam_rider hey chatgpt, deploy 500 subagents to do clean room implementation, make no mistakes, and subscribe superdicq to a million spam bulletins
@shibao @SuperDicq @sunbeam_rider you are talking to someone whose basically picrel
@mischievoustomato @shibao @sunbeam_rider I can still spot “AI” generated anything immediately.
@mischievoustomato @shibao @sunbeam_rider Also you’re posting a watermarked reddit screenshot unironically. You have no shame.
@shibao @SuperDicq @sunbeam_rider impressive. I might follow your gh at a later time.
@shibao @SuperDicq @sunbeam_rider i dont know how much this really matters unless the ai writing style annoys you. You can probably make it learn how you write to put that in the agents.md so it can spit out shit like that
@mischievoustomato @shibao @sunbeam_rider Yes, I do. Slop is the most obvious thing ever and it never sounds human.
@SuperDicq @shibao @sunbeam_rider if it makes you feel better this is a screenshot of a screenshot
@mischievoustomato @shibao @sunbeam_rider LLMs don’t learn anything during use, only during the training process. You start a new session context and they forget everything you said.
@shibao @SuperDicq @sunbeam_rider interesting. i personally don't really mind.
@SuperDicq @shibao @sunbeam_rider then keep the same session nigga
@mischievoustomato @shibao @sunbeam_rider If you can read more than 2 paragraphs of LLM generated text telling you how everything is load bearing and why it matters with overused emdashed without throwing up then you are already suffering from AI psychosis.
@shibao @mischievoustomato @sunbeam_rider Are you seriously implying that programming with LLMs “the right way” is just like bootstrapping a compiler? Are you insane?
@shibao @SuperDicq @sunbeam_rider pretty much. I need to start learning how to write AGENTS.md for my nixos repository, it's gonna be fun
@shibao @SuperDicq @sunbeam_rider for me i'd say i'm more so soul-less than satanic
@lain @shibao @mischievoustomato @sunbeam_rider The hip and trendy words that LLMs tend to use don’t make them sound like a cute nerdy girl but they instead make them sound like a 50 year old middle manager who has no clue about anything.
@theorytoe @shibao @mischievoustomato @sunbeam_rider Yes. Anything from text, code, images, music, videos. It’s always extremely obvious to me because I am not a demented facebook boomer who falls for indian scam calls and believes anything.
@lain @SuperDicq @shibao @sunbeam_rider we need to make robot women to put llm brains into them so we can fuck them while they do their llm speak.
@shibao @SuperDicq @sunbeam_rider what are the upsides? im not changing if it has no value to me. You can call things however you want but you're not convincing me.
@SuperDicq @theorytoe @shibao @sunbeam_rider bro youre a fsf fan...
@Pi_rat @lain @shibao @mischievoustomato @sunbeam_rider Yes that’s lowkey what I was referencing here
@mischievoustomato @theorytoe @shibao @sunbeam_rider Not just a fan, a member.
@shibao @mischievoustomato @theorytoe @sunbeam_rider Or ever will do
@shibao @theorytoe @mischievoustomato @SuperDicq @sunbeam_rider especially when it’s technical documentation because brother that shit is worse than running into the default doxygen template
@shibao @theorytoe @SuperDicq @sunbeam_rider arguably, but i dont care about making the world a better place (or worse for that matter)
@theorytoe @SuperDicq @shibao @sunbeam_rider its not just claudeussy
>cluade
>chatgpt
>opencode models (mimo 2.5 free)
>openrouter models (free routers model)
deepseek
for my learning, I use chatgpt, and then i implement stuff myself using Zed
@sunbeam_rider @theorytoe @SuperDicq @shibao notably, Steve Jobs, Tim Cook and John Ternus
@theorytoe @SuperDicq @shibao @sunbeam_rider how do you even meet satanists?
@shibao @mischievoustomato @sunbeam_rider I like this version more.
@menherahair @SuperDicq @shibao @sunbeam_rider sounds like gay nerd shit
@mischievoustomato @sunbeam_rider @theorytoe @shibao Those people have only made the world a worse place.
@shibao @SuperDicq @sunbeam_rider yeah? i dont know what your point is. I want a gf but I don't really expect to get one.
Rock DJ
@leyonhjelm @SuperDicq @dj @shibao @sunbeam_rider i already got a macbook
@leyonhjelm @SuperDicq @dj @shibao @sunbeam_rider *iphone lol
@dj @SuperDicq @shibao @sunbeam_rider its funny because a similar thing came up, whether id choose between the woman of my dreams or the macbook of my dreams, and I instinctively answered ‘macbook’. My mom knew id answer that way too
@theorytoe @SuperDicq @shibao @sunbeam_rider >> shit products
Bruhhh…. How ignorant!
@shibao @SuperDicq @sunbeam_rider the thing is that im not a nihilist, i just care about specific things, and stuff i dont care about just doesn’t matter to me
@david @SuperDicq @shibao @sunbeam_rider im currently at uni
@theorytoe @SuperDicq @shibao @sunbeam_rider i can, but i vibecode some stuff and write other stuff by hand, but use the llm in place of SO, google etc
@shibao @SuperDicq @dj @sunbeam_rider i dont even know what that means and most likely dont care either
@david @SuperDicq @shibao @sunbeam_rider maybe it happens maybe it doesnt. Brothels exist
@menherahair @SuperDicq @shibao @sunbeam_rider professionally retarded since birth
@theorytoe @SuperDicq @shibao @sunbeam_rider 🤷 everyone needs help once in a while
@theorytoe @mischievoustomato @shibao @sunbeam_rider I learn things by reading either the official documentation of whatever language I’m working with or by reading the source code of existing applications.