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@paula8@netzsphaere.xyz it’s pretty i also really like the default textures
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twinspin 
twinspin6@outerheaven.club
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@paula8@netzsphaere.xyz that’s not what it looks like for me wtf
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@paula8@netzsphaere.xyz idk i never chnaged it. it never looked like this for me
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gray solid buttons
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@paula8@netzsphaere.xyz i think that looks the same for me
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@paula8@netzsphaere.xyz @twinspin6@outerheaven.club oh that makes sense i thought paula was on ebin
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@paula8@netzsphaere.xyz jumping uphill feels better than in mc. also you can sprint without getting stopped whenever you run into a block. you can sprint uphill and it feels just like sprinting up stairs as it should imo
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@twinspin6 @yew if i wanted to play a buggy incomplete janky mc id play bedrock !
i cant actually even pirate bedrock because even for that you need a microsoft acc
i cant actually even pirate bedrock because even for that you need a microsoft acc
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@paula8@netzsphaere.xyz you can’t do that in mc? since when
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@yew jumping up a hill isnt supossed to be smooth, its a hill
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@paula8@netzsphaere.xyz @twinspin6@outerheaven.club nah paula has autism and doesn’t want us to enjoy things she doesn’t like
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@paula8@netzsphaere.xyz i regular go up hills irl and it’s smooth
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@yew @twinspin6 you can enjou it, who cares
im just saying that i opened mc beta 1.8, couldnt place a block inside me and when i forced a sand block to fall on me, the game pushed me out
im just saying that i opened mc beta 1.8, couldnt place a block inside me and when i forced a sand block to fall on me, the game pushed me out
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@paula8@netzsphaere.xyz @twinspin6@outerheaven.club items never despawn on ebin i doubt minecraft could handle that. certainly not java edition.
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twinspin
twinspin6@outerheaven.club
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@twinspin6 @yew but like why would you play a copy of mineceaft that barely competes with the beta when you can just play minecraft..
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@paula8@netzsphaere.xyz @twinspin6@outerheaven.club congrats, you don’t have autism
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@twinspin6@outerheaven.club @paula8@netzsphaere.xyz i choked on sand so much even after the release cause it wouldn’t push me out
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@yew @twinspin6 you can disable item despawn or increcrease it or whatwver you want in java
also isnt luanti backend filled with laggy linked lists? theres no way it performs better than java
also isnt luanti backend filled with laggy linked lists? theres no way it performs better than java
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@twinspin6 @yew you dont need a microsoft acc to play java
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twinspin
twinspin6@outerheaven.club
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@twinspin6@outerheaven.club @paula8@netzsphaere.xyz because all the annoying things about playing minecraft that bothered me are solved:
- no jank cooldown combat bullshit
- no jump cooldown
- running uphill feels like running uphill irl, not janky
- sprint doesn’t stop when i run into something
- no mc account, i can say slurs in chat, i can rename myself ingame for different servers without going to some 3rd party website
- the software runs smoothly and can handle any amount of ingame items as i please
- it has a clean modding api. if i want to add a crafting recipe, i add like 10 lines of lua and just relaunch the game
- no jank cooldown combat bullshit
- no jump cooldown
- running uphill feels like running uphill irl, not janky
- sprint doesn’t stop when i run into something
- no mc account, i can say slurs in chat, i can rename myself ingame for different servers without going to some 3rd party website
- the software runs smoothly and can handle any amount of ingame items as i please
- it has a clean modding api. if i want to add a crafting recipe, i add like 10 lines of lua and just relaunch the game
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@twinspin6@outerheaven.club @paula8@netzsphaere.xyz luajit is really fast. it’s not just java, it’s mojang code. it was even worse before notch left.
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@yew @twinspin6 @paula8 the cooldown is implemented, just less visible indicator so you're probably dealing almost no damage in melee, but apart from that i agree
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@twinspin6@outerheaven.club @paula8@netzsphaere.xyz but to join servers because they all enable verification no?
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@paula8@netzsphaere.xyz @twinspin6@outerheaven.club @snacks@netzsphaere.xyz ressource packs provide crafting recipes? since when
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@yew @twinspin6 @paula8 the java code is horrendous, producing ungodly amounts if garbage and overall being pretty inefficient. You shouldn't be able to get it to run so much better with community mods
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@yew @twinspin6 literally all of that can be done with java
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@twinspin6 @yew dont use the trans launcher (i mean you can actually but its annoying)
just use https://ultimmc.com/
sklauncher is also popular but ive never tried it
just use https://ultimmc.com/
sklauncher is also popular but ive never tried it
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@yew @twinspin6 there are hundreds of more minecraft servers without verification than there are luanti servers
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@twinspin6 @yew prism
you can enable offline accounts without a microsoft acc if you change the config files
you can enable offline accounts without a microsoft acc if you change the config files
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toebeans 🇨🇳 
coolbean@brain.worm.pink
@snacks @yew @paula8 @twinspin6 i wont lie i totally see the appeal its why i enjoy lisp and forth as well
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@snacks @paula8 @twinspin6 @yew though, forth you can actually store compiled. its just not common practice to do that outside of embedded environments
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@coolbean @yew @paula8 @twinspin6 it really lowers the barrier of entry to getting involved with dev yeah
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twinspin
twinspin6@outerheaven.club
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toebeans 🇨🇳
coolbean@brain.worm.pink
@snacks @yew @paula8 @twinspin6 and compatibility, its just nice to be able to run the same game with the same mods on almost any os
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@twinspin6 @yew yeah its not worth using prism, they even removed ftb modpacks lol
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@twinspin6 @yew @paula8 It's a two line patch to create a working offline account in prism launcher.
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@twinspin6 @yew @paula8 fiorecraft is good everyone should join
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paula8
paula8
@phnt @yew @twinspin6 is that a repo with precompiled binaries? thats the biggest pain tbh, microsoft removed pollymc from github
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@coolbean @yew @paula8 @twinspin6 but yeah. I think anything interpreted or jited massively helps the foss/hacker spirit. Pretty much the opposite of unreasonably complex gnuware
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@paula8@netzsphaere.xyz @twinspin6@outerheaven.club until microsoft gets tired of this and adds better drm to minecraft
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@yew @twinspin6 and until then java will be better game than luanti
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@paula8@netzsphaere.xyz @twinspin6@outerheaven.club for you ig, not for me
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Phantasm
phnt@fluffytail.org
@paula8 @yew @twinspin6 What luanti is missing is a modding community with the same autism as minecraft technic mods. Literally the only reason why I sometimes play minecraft is because of the large magic/technical modpacks.
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@phnt@fluffytail.org @paula8@netzsphaere.xyz @twinspin6@outerheaven.club i hate tech mods they ruin every minecraft server I've been on
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@yew @twinspin6 @paula8 They are a pain in the ass to run, I agree with that. FTB University 1.19 on FreeBSD eats like 8GB of RAM for two players.
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@phnt@fluffytail.org @twinspin6@outerheaven.club @paula8@netzsphaere.xyz i like building things in my block game. i don't like it eating all my computer's resources because someone needed 200 modpacks to build the everything machine(tm)
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paula8
paula8
@phnt @yew @twinspin6 yesterday i found entire mods being recreated for mc bedrock (not paid marketplace mods, just regular mods)
there was ae2, botania, storage drawers, bunch of machine mods and whatever
https://vatonage.com/?type=addon
you cant possibly tell me people playing luanti of all games dont have the autism to do this
i mean really, lucy is calling me autistic for playing mc when shes playing luanti
luanti
there was ae2, botania, storage drawers, bunch of machine mods and whatever
https://vatonage.com/?type=addon
you cant possibly tell me people playing luanti of all games dont have the autism to do this
i mean really, lucy is calling me autistic for playing mc when shes playing luanti
luanti
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@yew @twinspin6 @paula8 Tech mod packs peaked with Tekkit/Technic pack in 1.2.5. Now everything is AE2 with a bunch of addons. IC3 is shit, Thaumcraft stopped being good at v3 and Equivalent exchange stopped being usable with v3.
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@snacks@netzsphaere.xyz @twinspin6@outerheaven.club @phnt@fluffytail.org @paula8@netzsphaere.xyz mc is such a great game i need to setup specific mods of a specific 3rd party modapi to make it playable 
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@phnt@fluffytail.org @twinspin6@outerheaven.club @paula8@netzsphaere.xyz idk what an ae2 is or tekkit.
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@paula8@netzsphaere.xyz @snacks@netzsphaere.xyz @twinspin6@outerheaven.club @phnt@fluffytail.org i can. i join a server and since all mods are server-side i don't need to worry about it.
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@yew @twinspin6 @phnt ae2 is a mod for storage, instead of having tens for chests you have a computer with hdds
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@yew @twinspin6 @paula8 Tekkit is the multiplayer version of technic pack. And AE2 is Applied Energetics 2 which is the most kitchen sink mod ever.
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@paula8@netzsphaere.xyz @snacks@netzsphaere.xyz @twinspin6@outerheaven.club @phnt@fluffytail.org no the mods just run on the server. the client doesn't need the mod.
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Phantasm
phnt@fluffytail.org
@paula8 @yew @twinspin6 Hey, at least it has a functional recipe menu instead of that god awful one in minecraft.
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@paula8@netzsphaere.xyz @snacks@netzsphaere.xyz @twinspin6@outerheaven.club @phnt@fluffytail.org i like the game i enjoy building things in it and you won't change anything about it 
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Phantasm
phnt@fluffytail.org
@paula8 @yew @twinspin6
>have you even used it? doesnt feel good
No but it at least makes all the recipes visible at least from what I can gather from that screen shot. And it isn't some small 7x4-ish minimenu.
>have you even used it? doesnt feel good
No but it at least makes all the recipes visible at least from what I can gather from that screen shot. And it isn't some small 7x4-ish minimenu.
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@yew @snacks @twinspin6 @phnt your game is bad and you should feel bad about it
and you know maybe improve the game so i can play it one day
and you know maybe improve the game so i can play it one day
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@paula8@netzsphaere.xyz @snacks@netzsphaere.xyz @twinspin6@outerheaven.club @phnt@fluffytail.org i like the game and i have lots of fun with it. instead of harassing me about it you why don't you pay me if you want me to put in the effort to add things you want, or at the very least ask nicely? being mean won't motivate me to waste my time for your sake 
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@paula8@netzsphaere.xyz @twinspin6@outerheaven.club @phnt@fluffytail.org @snacks@netzsphaere.xyz you read smut at work it's not like you're busy
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@paula8@netzsphaere.xyz @phnt@fluffytail.org @snacks@netzsphaere.xyz @twinspin6@outerheaven.club who is talking about c++
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@paula8@netzsphaere.xyz @snacks@netzsphaere.xyz @twinspin6@outerheaven.club @phnt@fluffytail.org none of the gameplay related code is afaik, it's all lua. the game itself is implemented via the modding api.
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@paula8@netzsphaere.xyz @snacks@netzsphaere.xyz @twinspin6@outerheaven.club @phnt@fluffytail.org like luanti's c++ part is just a mod launcher and rendering stuff etc.
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@paula8@netzsphaere.xyz @snacks@netzsphaere.xyz @twinspin6@outerheaven.club @phnt@fluffytail.org yes. the ui is server side.
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@paula8@netzsphaere.xyz @phnt@fluffytail.org @snacks@netzsphaere.xyz @twinspin6@outerheaven.club im pretty sure you can use a static-typing lua transpiler setup why not
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@yew @snacks @twinspin6 @phnt thats if im making a mod myself, if im changing whatever on someone else's code ideally they'd be using that already?
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@paula8@netzsphaere.xyz @snacks@netzsphaere.xyz @twinspin6@outerheaven.club @phnt@fluffytail.org imagine you wanna modify something but use fennel or whatever lua-frontend, you'd set it up so that the fennel transpiler runs and generates lua code right?
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Q.U.I.N.N.
icedquinn@blob.cat
@snacks @coolbean @yew @paula8 @twinspin6
> jitted
> opposite of 'unreasonably complex'
ahaha. oh man.
> jitted
> opposite of 'unreasonably complex'
ahaha. oh man.
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Q.U.I.N.N.
icedquinn@blob.cat
@yew @snacks @twinspin6 @phnt @paula8 rendering uses a vendored irrlicht and implements all the gameplay primitives. lua glues some things together but its considerably limited in what it can do.
even basic stuff like custom hotkeys for mods can't be done since all keyboard-stuff is controlled by the c++ side.
even basic stuff like custom hotkeys for mods can't be done since all keyboard-stuff is controlled by the c++ side.
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@yew @snacks @twinspin6 @phnt idk i never actually touched any typed lua
honestly a game like that nowadays should just use v8 and offer javascript and webassembly modding
honestly a game like that nowadays should just use v8 and offer javascript and webassembly modding
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Q.U.I.N.N.
icedquinn@blob.cat
@paula8 @phnt @yew @snacks @twinspin6 no. asked about it in the skyblock zero disc.
you get a very limited set of UI widgets to work with and thats it, too. which is why every mod kinda looks bad and has clunky UIs.
you get a very limited set of UI widgets to work with and thats it, too. which is why every mod kinda looks bad and has clunky UIs.
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Snacks
snacks
@icedquinn @coolbean @yew @paula8 @twinspin6 i worded it badly since you can also create impossible to navigate source in lua, but you don't touch the luajit source when poking around in luanti either
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@paula8 @icedquinn @phnt @twinspin6 @yew we had multiple threads of people being confused about how to sprint because of this, yeah
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@paula8 @icedquinn @phnt @twinspin6 @yew look in your settings, auxillary1 is the binding for sprint
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@snacks @icedquinn @phnt @twinspin6 @yew oh wow the settings are so much better nowadays this is actually wild
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casey is remote
realcaseyrollins@noauthority.social
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casey is remote
realcaseyrollins@noauthority.social@paula8 @fiore @yew @twinspin6 Sell me on #fiorecraft
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