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Undry January
prettygood@socially.drinkingatmy.computer
https://www.osnews.com/story/144140/google-takes-next-big-leap-in-killing-aosp-significantly-scales-back-aosp-contributions/
You cocksuckers really want me to buy an iPhone don't you? I'm not going back to the plantation, that's for damn sure.
You cocksuckers really want me to buy an iPhone don't you? I'm not going back to the plantation, that's for damn sure.
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I'm so tired of shitty notifications and performance on Android. I bought a Pixel 10 Pro XL and it is pretty underwhelming. I don't think I'll ever buy Apple desktops/laptops but I might go with their phone and watch next time I upgrade.
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@matty I'm real fuckin tempted to go with a dumb phone. I don't "need" anything on a smart phone, its all luxuries. I travel by myself once or twice a year, and I can print maps for that, or use my fuckin brain for a while. Everything else amounts to "I can scroll on the shitter" or "I have hentai in my pocket" type shit.
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Nigger im just gonna be keeping a gold brick in my pocket. fr
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Probably not a bad idea, but you may end up realizing you use the smart phone for more than you think if you don't have it. Dumb phones are pretty cheap, why not try it for a week and see?
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@matty I was just going to say it won't cost me much to find out. My Pixel 6 still has ~9 months of support, I can always switch back.
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Pocket henty uoh
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Give it a try 
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@prettygood @matty I really want to switch to a dumb phone but not being able to use private comms on them is a deal breaker
Unless it runs Android, in which case it has the worst of both worlds
Unless it runs Android, in which case it has the worst of both worlds
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@scathach @matty @prettygood I love my ROM even though my phones SIMcard doesnt work anymore and niether do banking apps. I need to figure that shit out >.<
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@Wiz @matty @prettygood I knew this guy who fucked up his intestines by eating spicy food and he'd have to go to the can for actually more than an hour sometimes and he'd bring in his laptop because if you're shitting for hours you need to remain productive.
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@Wiz @matty @prettygood ...Yeah OK I knew a guy *other than you* who was like this and that was basically where he did his work until someone convinced him to stop downing 100 fucking tons of capsacin each day.
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@prettygood @matty @Wiz I actually really like the idea of a cell phone as a 2FA, I will immediately know if my phone is lost
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Kerosene - Most Raped Kikeslave
Kerosene@detroitriotcity.com
@prettygood @matty @scathach Yesterday I watched a review by some dork on the internet who talks about Linux phones, and apparently recently there has been some development in the space, and there appear to be some usable options out there that aren't the Librem 5 nor the Pinephone. The video I watched was about the FLX1s. Nothing to write home about, but does work as a smartphone outside of having to use banking apps (according to the review), which is kinda impressive considering how dogshit these Linux phones tend to be.
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Kerosene - Most Raped Kikeslave
Kerosene@detroitriotcity.com
@prettygood @matty @scathach https://furilabs.com/shop/flx1s/
500 bucks for the privilege of being a Loonix phone beta tester, but I guess it's something. I would personally wait until there are better options since I literally only use my phone for one (1) app I need for work and for listening to music/YT videos while going to work and I don't feel like spending a bunch of money on something that might or might not work well.
500 bucks for the privilege of being a Loonix phone beta tester, but I guess it's something. I would personally wait until there are better options since I literally only use my phone for one (1) app I need for work and for listening to music/YT videos while going to work and I don't feel like spending a bunch of money on something that might or might not work well.
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@prettygood Do we know how this will affect Graphene?
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@prettygood @matty Oh yeah, that makes sense
Main thing I use it for is calling and texting while away from my computer
Main thing I use it for is calling and texting while away from my computer
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@Kerosene @matty @prettygood FLX1 seems like it would be almost as good as Sailfish OS, unfortunately it's still a smartphone
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@QCCEChris it seems this is going to be a similar situation to what we're already coping with now; that is to say, the updates are available in a timely manner because Graphene has access to them under embargo, but the source code won't be available.
I'm basing this conclusion on the current thread here: https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/30133-google-will-now-only-release-android-source-code-twice-a-year/3
I'm going to take this opportunity to try life without a smartphone, both for the purpose of avoiding this bullshit and for my personal well-being. I've got time (~9mo) before my Pixel 6 is out of support, anyway.
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@prettygood @matty That's good to know, I've been wanting to switch for years at this point
What software do you use for calls?
What software do you use for calls?
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@scathach @matty Conversations on Android, but JMP backs the Cheogram app which should integrate better with their service, I suppose.
I don't use it much for calls, so I don't particularly care that gajim doesn't work with the calls, but I might care more when I don't have a smartphone, so who knows.
I don't use it much for calls, so I don't particularly care that gajim doesn't work with the calls, but I might care more when I don't have a smartphone, so who knows.
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@prettygood @QCCEChris I'd be shocked if Graphene OS lasts the decade, it's only a matter of time before they're stuck maintaining Android all on their own and there's no way they'll be able to keep up
We really need to ditch any and all dependence on Android and its ecosystem
We really need to ditch any and all dependence on Android and its ecosystem
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@scathach @QCCEChris couldn't agree more, sadly. What's really depressing is I feel like Graphene hits the sweet spot between normies and schizos. Like you can have real GPlay if you want, but its off by default, and sandboxed if you enable it. Its as googley or as free as you want it to be. But everything beautiful in tech has to die so fuck us I guess.
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@prettygood Are you bad enough dude to use GNUbooted GNU phone(thinkpad)
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@Pi_rat no, sadly.
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@prettygood AHAH searching because of this post found this
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Sun Microdevil Pte Ltd
koakuma@uwu.social@prettygood Reminds me of https://web.archive.org/web/20100816225601/http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/opensolaris-discuss/2010-August/059310.html
> We will distribute updates to approved CDDL or other open source-licensed code following full releases of our enterprise Solaris operating system.
And then the promised source releases never happened anyway
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@koakuma @prettygood That and the numerous other proprietary-relicensing is why I'm like:
1. If there's very few copyright holder, the license is temporary
2. If it's also too big/messy to fork, run away
1. If there's very few copyright holder, the license is temporary
2. If it's also too big/messy to fork, run away
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@koakuma yup, exactly
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@koakuma also this is why the fucking GPL matters
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Vinnewed Goblin
mirq@tsogol.tsiran.org
@prettygood @Wiz I did the same but with vaultwarden. I feel like saying it defeats the purpose of the "2" in "2fa" isn't really right since with a typical authenticator app (ie, the one most people use ie google's), if someone has your phone they have your 2fa and your passwords all in one anyway
So like, yeah, having passwords and totp in one app under one master PW is less secure than having those things separate, but it's still more than what the majority of people have
Additionally 2fa is kind of gay anyway and for the kind of attacks it actually stops, having it all in one place doesn't make a difference I think
So like, yeah, having passwords and totp in one app under one master PW is less secure than having those things separate, but it's still more than what the majority of people have
Additionally 2fa is kind of gay anyway and for the kind of attacks it actually stops, having it all in one place doesn't make a difference I think
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Sun Microdevil Pte Ltd
koakuma@uwu.social@prettygood In case of Solaris, they're the copyright holders so they can do whatever regardless of the license anyway no?
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@koakuma frankly I don't know enough about copyright or branding but I do know enough to say users got hosed because of a weak license
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Haelwenn /элвэн/ 
🔜FOSDEM
lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
@koakuma @prettygood Yeah, if Oracle wouldn't be the only copyright holder then Oracle would be infringing, the CDDL is a copyleft license.
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Sun Microdevil Pte Ltd
koakuma@uwu.social@lanodan @prettygood Mhmm, I'd say it's also prime example why you shouldn't give away your copyright (e.g with CLA or the like)
Keeps some leverage in case those things happen
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Haelwenn /элвэн/ 🔜FOSDEM
lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
@koakuma @prettygood Yeah, it's why I never contribute to stuff with a CLA.
Funniest is the AGPLv3+CLA (I think Oracle introduced that horror, with BerkDB), keep the patch under your own copyright and either they have to drop being the sole copyright holder or drop using AGPLv3 as a hack.
Funniest is the AGPLv3+CLA (I think Oracle introduced that horror, with BerkDB), keep the patch under your own copyright and either they have to drop being the sole copyright holder or drop using AGPLv3 as a hack.
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Sun Microdevil Pte Ltd
koakuma@uwu.social@lanodan @prettygood Not that doing things through court is easy but hey
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Haelwenn /элвэн/ 🔜FOSDEM
lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
@koakuma @prettygood btw on the AGPLv3+CLA stuff:
https://lwn.net/Articles/557820/ Debian, Berkeley DB, and AGPLv3
https://lwn.net/Articles/541981/ SCALE: The life and times of the AGPL (by Bradley Kuhn of SFC)
https://lwn.net/Articles/557820/ Debian, Berkeley DB, and AGPLv3
https://lwn.net/Articles/541981/ SCALE: The life and times of the AGPL (by Bradley Kuhn of SFC)
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@prettygood I will stay on my old lineage based ROM until linux phones become good
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mangeurdenuage 
:gondola_head: 🌿 
mangeurdenuage@shitposter.world
@prettygood I went back to a nokia brick phone.
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mangeurdenuage :gondola_head: 🌿
mangeurdenuage@shitposter.world
@prettygood @matty
Way ahead of you.
>I don't "need" anything on a smart phone, its all luxuries.
Worse than that, it's normie luxury. It has no real practicality for work if you can't control it like any gnu/linux computer.
Otherwise it's practical as a camera, that's all.
Way ahead of you.
>I don't "need" anything on a smart phone, its all luxuries.
Worse than that, it's normie luxury. It has no real practicality for work if you can't control it like any gnu/linux computer.
Otherwise it's practical as a camera, that's all.
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@prettygood >Android gets worse again (still not as bad as iOS).
"I'm going to go and shackle myself harder with an iphone".
Why can't you just get a GNUbooted GNU/Phone and not have to be in anyone's plantation?
"I'm going to go and shackle myself harder with an iphone".
Why can't you just get a GNUbooted GNU/Phone and not have to be in anyone's plantation?
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@prettygood @matty There are no "dumb phones" anymore for networks with GSM shut down - LTE flip phones are Android, except you're not allowed to install anything.
You can install SIP software onto any computer - that can even be a laptop.
You can install SIP software onto any computer - that can even be a laptop.
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