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realcaseyrollins@noauthority.social@georgia @0ee827a36e8bb0cfc483cf1872781182c4a16c58acba3ae2d7b155e0370e93b8 read the above post and sort each word in alphabetical order
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woodland creature
meowski@fluf.club
@georgia yes of course but there are easier ways to sort a list
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No, sorting by name is incredibly complicated.
For example in Danish the letter å can be replaced with aa, which it is in the official spelling of some towns. But they are still sorted as if they where spelled with an å.
*source of this particular exempl is about a decade old, so I might have misremembered some details
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@georgia I wonder what kind of algorithm an LLM runs under the hood to sort a list
Or for that matter what kind of algorithm our brains use
Or for that matter what kind of algorithm our brains use
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@scathach we have free will but its a property of the soul not the mind
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@georgia Not sure what that has to do with it
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@scathach because human consciousness is divine in essence and thus transcends the realm of information and will never be exactly replicated by something soulless. the electrochemical neurocomputer is just the most gross element of human consciousness, and the subtle always precedes the gross. this is evident in a yogi who is conscious and may chose to experience the senses while outside of the body.
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@georgia Consciousness is transcendent, but the way our minds do specific tasks like sorting a list largely comes down to electro-chemical wiring
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@scathach I dont believe we will ever completely replicate the workings of a brain with algorithms precisely because the subtle precedes the gross (even though it seems otherwise). but its true that an observer could be fooled into thinking otherwise from the behaviors of a computational model, after all, we already are fooled quite frequently this way.
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@georgia @scathach So biocomputers reusing human brains (would cultured cancer cells do? Much easier to get volunteers to give away something they don't want...) in some of their components should do the trick until artificial souls are figured out (clearly more souls can be made), no?
(For what it's worth, I do not subscribe to meat being intrinsically magical, but if it were that isn't an insurmountable obstacle.)
(For what it's worth, I do not subscribe to meat being intrinsically magical, but if it were that isn't an insurmountable obstacle.)
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georgia
georgia
@lispi314 @scathach sorry but your ideology and any "we can build God" discourse is cringe and beneath the post its written with. the common unity of revealed texts on the soul in describing ensouling as a unique divine act or even the soul as being literally God speaks volumes as do the miracles supporting these texts.
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Alex@boymilk.cafe
"Artificial souls" create repulsive homunculi. They are not human. They are not capable of behaving as humans. They are spiritual plagues. You are attempting to invent cancer. You are a scientist who is asking "has cancer ever really been tried?". You are wondering if we can and not wondering if we should. You want to open pandora's box to see what will happen.
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johnny peligro
mischievoustomato@tsundere.love
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@georgia @scathach So it is a factor & event entirely extrinsic from physical circumstances & anchors.
That would mean both that we would fail, that we lack any means to actually judge its authenticity (as the source cannot be observed nor sufficiently described) and that bootstrap will remain a mess.
That would mean both that we would fail, that we lack any means to actually judge its authenticity (as the source cannot be observed nor sufficiently described) and that bootstrap will remain a mess.
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georgia
georgia
@Alex @scathach @lispi314 an artificial soul just isnt a soul in any meaningful way, empirically and essentially. I assume what it would attempt to replicate is the property of free will, and at this it would fail, but even if it succeeded free will is not the primary property of a soul even if you "correct" infinite existence, consciousness, and bliss (Brahman) to the existence of maya, creating the jivatman. the smallest insect will always be more alive and aware than the "smartest" robot, because it is ensouled.
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