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but I think if youre a christian you should be iconodulistic
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@kaia you shouldnt compare being very respectful to images of jesus, saints, and angels to worshipping the golden calf. Jesus made matter holy by taking on the flesh, didnt He? and aren't people who love Jesus holy and worthy of depicting?
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@georgia in the Catholic interpretation of the second commandment, you are allowed to make an image of Jesus etc. but you are not allowed to pray to that image. you are only allowed to pray to Jesus (or Mary or whomever as a mediator). . many laypeople might not understand, which is okay since God will forgive.
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@georgia @kaia >aren't people who love Jesus holy
They can be righteous and good, but they are not divine, if that's what you mean by "holy".
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@kaia first off, catholic and orthodox christians pray in front of images and statues all the time.

but moreso, I said that christians should be iconodulists. if you looked up the word for more than a second (I mean no offence by this) you'd see that this means showing reverence to images but not worshipping the image itself as God. this is the predominant classical position of christianity which is why I assumed you were a protestant.
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@Jens_Rasmussen @kaia sorry but youre wrong, man can become divine, though christians dont believe in true apotheosis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divinization_(Christian)
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@georgia @kaia Man becoming divine is true only for Jesus Christ himself. It's possible for humans to become divinely inspired or even possessed by a divine spirit (although possession is generally demonic), as was the case with prophets and Christ's disciples, but the divinity is borrowed from God, it is not the people themselves being divine.
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@Jens_Rasmussen @kaia all divinity is Gods divinity, no one is arguing for discrete divine natures, thats polytheism.
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@georgia @kaia In that case, as I said, the only case of man becoming divine is Jesus Christ.
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@Jens_Rasmussen @kaia jesus christ isnt man becoming divine, Hes divine becoming man
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@Jens_Rasmussen @kaia the notion that I'm trying to convey is that His divine nature is preeexistant while His human nature is created
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@georgia on a different note, if you want to write a booklet or book to publish, I can help with formatting and digital publishing. I sell several books, but none pay much 02smile
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