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is there a Linux OS that needs less resources than Lubuntu and is similarly easy to install and use? my dad's laptop doesn't like the new Lubuntu
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@kaia you mean light weight and for desktop use?

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@kaia maybe alpine (or any other light distro, though alpine is very user friendly imo) with xfce or lxqt.

though you could try xubuntu too, which is ubuntu with xfce.

for me xfce was always pretty light weight. though more heavy then lxde/lxqt. (at least it was back when i tried)

https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Desktop_environments_and_Window_managers

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Lucy [hiatus era] 𒌋𒁯

@raccoon @kaia it might not be easy to install ig like you have to know how to use a computer.

xubuntu maybe? it's like ubuntu with xfce4 it's quite lightweight for being user-friendly afaik
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@kaia@brotka.st
Actually, what about MX Linux?

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@kaia https://distrowatch.com/search.php Yes, maintained? Fewer. Depends on what choked Lubuntu? "mate" on mint is actually "comfy" without being to bloted, IMHO, but it's still bloated... so I'd say.... try linux mint xfce iso? see how it goes?
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@kaia@brotka.st alpine is pretty lightweight,with the right window manager should be as easy to use
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@kaia Debian GNU/Linux is your best choice. No more ubuntu stuff and having a clean OS yet easier to use than ubuntu.

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@raccoon @kaia

Them:
> "Proudly anti-fascist "antiX Magic"

Me:
WTF am I looking at.... /me goes back to compiling dwm...
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@lucy @kaia @raccoon isn’t void installation basically the same as ubuntu except it’s a TUI rather than a GUI?

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@xarvos @kaia @raccoon yeah but normies prefer GUIs
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@kaia So far the lightest distro I know is antiX.

And what about some other distros that ship with LXQt just as Lubuntu? Fedora is known from shipping mostly vanilla desktop environments.

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@p it's a X200 ThinkPad with 2GB of RAM. I think I'll buy dad a new one
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@lucy i think @kaia is better than that tho

also a lot of the weight lies in the apps, so it might be worth examining before going through the hassle

@raccoon

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@kura @kaia
> alpine
> laptop
Only distro i ever had issues getting wifi to work on and that was consistent
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@xarvos @kaia @raccoon yeah but her dad?
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@kaia @p maybe just get more ram? 2 gb is very little and will choke the moment you open a modern browser
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@kaia@brotka.st @p@raru.re
Put 8 gig of RAM in it and he'll probably be fine a few more years. 2 is nearly unusable today, unless you're into TUI software, 8 is enough for most things.
Getting used to new hardware isn't easy either — even if it's not something new and shiny with dedicated "AI key", you can always get him a newer Thinkpad, but even in this case… different keyboard alone might make you think "I don't like it at all!"

Having more RAM might even get your issues with Lubuntu resolved — 2 gigs is too little, it might be a problem of its own.
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@snacks @kaia thats why i also mentioned xubuntu, didnt i?

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@kaia I have found that Debian usually offers a decent user experience with fewer resources than *buntu distros.

Depending on the hardware, of course.

2 Gigs of RAM might be a little light for Debian, but I'd still give it a shot.

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@kaia
>my dad's laptop doesn't like the new Lubuntu

sudo apt install language-selector-gnome mate-desktop-environment mate-desktop-environment-extras

Will fix that, then you select, once, the MATE DE at the login page.

I recommend removing the default MATE menu and use the compact menu.
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@mangeurdenuage@shitposter.world @kaia@brotka.st
Which is what Kaia wants, as far as I understand.

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@kaia The OS can be as light as a feather, but it can never make up for browsers trying their best to run tons and tons of JavaScript IMO.
At risk of sounding like a broken record, I would try Mint.

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