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georgia
I think womanhood can be more than the trivial thing it is now, it should be a globally destabilizing force for good.
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annoyed Homura
subnetter@shitposter.world
@georgia uh wdym about trivial? Idk how it could be trivial in any way shape or form
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@subnetter its only more than trivial in traditional societies, in western countries its basically become synonymous with performing femininity
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annoyed Homura
subnetter@shitposter.world
@georgia It's almost as if there's been a push for regressive ideas and notions about gender lately...
But yeah, most people do not have that view, nor is that reflective of reality no matter how many post modernist mental gymnastics people in the west pull. Women are critical to every society, especially the U.S economy as it currently stands.
Women hold up half the sky, Mao was right.
But yeah, most people do not have that view, nor is that reflective of reality no matter how many post modernist mental gymnastics people in the west pull. Women are critical to every society, especially the U.S economy as it currently stands.
Women hold up half the sky, Mao was right.
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@subnetter I didnt mean to say that women are trivial as a class but that what sets them apart from men has become trivial
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@subnetter @georgia just because we've advanced in time doesn't mean we're immune to regressive ideas, they slip through in a lot of things, including a lot of the modern conceptions of gender and being transgender, despite that supposedly being super progressive. When something has as much momentum and charged rhetoric and is so close to people's identities, it will have problems that people refuse to confront because they're a core part of the whole concept. It's a shame
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@subnetter and not in a good gender abolitiony way, but in a "we associate womenhood with frivolities" way
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@subnetter with girls you see female culture as a powerful force for comeradery but with adults its totally unsubversive
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annoyed Homura
subnetter@shitposter.world
@georgia I don't know about that. Women in India are being pressured to remove their uteruses to work longer hours. Even in the U.S. women don't have autonomy over their bodies. Femicide is a major issue back home and I am afraid of being harmed for simply being or woman or being perceived as a marimacha.
Men do not generally worry about these things. I literally just had some men suggest impregnating women as a form of reproductive control in my comments earlier. We just saw the Epstein files unfold and it is primarily women and children who were victimized with photos of their abuse being leaked by the DoJ for the world to make a mockery of. So respectfully, I disagree.
Men do not generally worry about these things. I literally just had some men suggest impregnating women as a form of reproductive control in my comments earlier. We just saw the Epstein files unfold and it is primarily women and children who were victimized with photos of their abuse being leaked by the DoJ for the world to make a mockery of. So respectfully, I disagree.
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@subnetter all good points but I was more speaking of female culture not being radical enough, or even particularly interesting anymore. I wasnt denying that women are oppressed on the basis of the burden of reproduction. femicide is a major issue in countries like india and china, but that doesnt mean that women in the US are doing much more than getting by on their own terms without much consideration for their sisters. I want to see something global and disruptive of capitalist patriarchy. female ascetics who worship the Devi or female artisans who operate by word of mouth. female warriors. something cool and a little bit revolutionary.
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annoyed Homura
subnetter@shitposter.world
@georgia eh I get what you mean with libfems but there are women like that you just need to seek them out. It's definitely more niche but there are radical communities if you seek them hard enough.
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@subnetter @georgia >U.S. women don't have autonomy over their bodies
this used to exist, it was called protecting sex behind marriage.
>Men do not generally worry about these things
grown men with the advantage of strength, at least, little boys not so much. and I hope the Epstein stuff isn't being seen as a joke, I haven't seen that personally only anger.
this used to exist, it was called protecting sex behind marriage.
>Men do not generally worry about these things
grown men with the advantage of strength, at least, little boys not so much. and I hope the Epstein stuff isn't being seen as a joke, I haven't seen that personally only anger.
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Sally (evil)
sally@freesoftwareextremist.com
@georgia @subnetter
I thought it was obvious that western feminism is a social and political failure when pretty much every western State treats it like a public relations thing or a psyop, not even the furthest right parties shittalk feminism like they used to.
I thought it was obvious that western feminism is a social and political failure when pretty much every western State treats it like a public relations thing or a psyop, not even the furthest right parties shittalk feminism like they used to.
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Sally (evil)
sally@freesoftwareextremist.com
@georgia @subnetter
> I didnt mean to say that women are trivial as a class
That's fine, I'll say it, most women are hopeless on the west because feminism has become increasingly de-radicalized, they're politically irrelevant and they're committed to non-violence, things are going on a downhill spiral and it's mostly due to how cucked and useless feminism and feminists on the west is today, nobody with half a brain takes feminism seriously around these parts.
> I didnt mean to say that women are trivial as a class
That's fine, I'll say it, most women are hopeless on the west because feminism has become increasingly de-radicalized, they're politically irrelevant and they're committed to non-violence, things are going on a downhill spiral and it's mostly due to how cucked and useless feminism and feminists on the west is today, nobody with half a brain takes feminism seriously around these parts.
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@sally @subnetter yeah feminism would mean something if it were anti porn and gender abolitionist but it isnt anymore
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Sally (evil)
sally@freesoftwareextremist.com
@georgia @subnetter
> if it were anti-porn and gender abolitionist
And many foids will still defend trannies as if they aren't a political enemy to them, it's painfully hilarious that degenerate and crossdressing men somehow managed to ruin feminism.
> if it were anti-porn and gender abolitionist
And many foids will still defend trannies as if they aren't a political enemy to them, it's painfully hilarious that degenerate and crossdressing men somehow managed to ruin feminism.
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@subnetter @sally nordic model yes please
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@georgia @subnetter
the day female comedians become funny patriarchal capitalism will be shaken in it's core
the day female comedians become funny patriarchal capitalism will be shaken in it's core
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troonigger
troonigger@clubcyberia.co
@georgia female is the default human state. In the absence of testosterone, or testosterone sensitivity, everyone develops (or actually retains) feminine characteristics.
This is subversive in Western society, because it's all rooted in Abrahamic religions that are founded on Eve being made from Adam. The reality is the exact opposite, Adam was made from Eve.
That itself is potentially globally destabilizing, and a force for good.
This is subversive in Western society, because it's all rooted in Abrahamic religions that are founded on Eve being made from Adam. The reality is the exact opposite, Adam was made from Eve.
That itself is potentially globally destabilizing, and a force for good.
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annoyed Homura
subnetter@shitposter.world
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