the us navy has had the technology to play music in people's heads this entire time???
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1W8AUH28lYk
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microwave_auditory_effect

they just straight up released this shit lol https://patents.google.com/patent/US5889870A/en

well this is only ultrasonic not radio idk if it's the right patent

@shibao what about the antigrav patents

https://patents.google.com/patent/US6587729B2/en aha I found it

@lain i haven't seen videos of the antigravity working on crowds of snot nosed college freshmen, so unless they're all faking it, i feel like this is more credible lol

like theoretically i could build it if i had the clearances to use the frequencies

@lain am radio airpods when

he can't hear you, he has his carrier suppressed amplitude modulation airpods in

@lain also you heard it here first folks, the navy beaming CSAM into people's heads

@shibao that wasn't even in the epstein files

@shibao this is gonna rock the world of paranoid schizophrenia

@georgia @shibao the government should keep tabs on schizophrenics

@sun @shibao the schizo is the natural enemy of the psycho

@sun
Underrated onion classic
@georgia @shibao

@georgia @shibao @sun the nsa monitors the schizos just to make sure they aren’t recieving psychic transmissions meant for cia field assets

Antigravity tech is basically in the public domain, problem is nobody really knows how to make it produce more than a few milligrams of lift...

@cjd @lain i wish i could find more details but everything seems incredibly uncredible. if they'd publish a video of it producing "thrust" then i'd pay more attention

@cjd @lain @shibao crank the power up

@jeff @cjd @lain i'm assuming he's talking about the theory where it needs some exotic E169 alloy nanostructure or whatever to function and we can only get those from crashed ETs or something so we can't just "turn the power up" with it or whatever

Raise the voltage -> It arcs out
Increase the gap distance -> Effect decreases with square of distance
Lower voltage and decrease the gap distance -> Effect grows with square until it suddenly disappears, nobody knows why that happens

Solve #3 and you can fly.

@cjd @lain @jeff i wish there was an easier place to find more details, i've heard a theory floating around that it creates a gravity field well in front and a hill in the back and then can produce "thrust" from that but i thought that came from a bunch of physicists being like "hey if we could manipulate gravity like this then it'd work" and not from however ur magical antigrav material works

You're looking in the wrong places.

Here's a dumb simple reproduction: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=006d36WWyaQ

That is NOT an ionic thruster, it's a Townsend Brown thruster, we know very well how to make them but we lack the physics to understand why they work - and how to make them produce *useful* amounts of thrust.

Paper about them: https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/20040171929/downloads/20040171929.pdf

"they work, we don't know why"

Wikipedos mumbling about ions: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biefeld%E2%80%93Brown_effect
(It's been proven that it is not ions.)

Dr. Charles Buhler (NASA electrostatics guru) started a company called Exodus to try to commercialize the thrusters for low thrust satellite applications. Video: Him commenting on the major physics issue with the fact that the thrusters don't actually require power in order to work.

There's another issue with these thrusters which opens a MASSIVE can of worms:

They don't push against anything - they've been tested in sealed containers inside of vacuum chambers and there's nothing being thrown off and nothing being pushed against.

That means, if they produce 1 gram of thrust at "rest" (there's no such thing as "stationary" in a universal sense), they also produce the same thrust at any speed...

That's a Problem for physics, because if you make one spin around in a circle, the faster it spins, the more power it generates (same torque, more RPM), so basically it's a backdoor into Free Energy...

Currently does not work in any meaningful way because the thrust they produce is so small that you can't get them to spin fast enough to extract meaningful power (the structure can't handle the centrifugal force). But they do create theoretical free energy which is at least enough to troll the shit out of physicists...

@cjd @lain i finally watched the pic related video and the effect seems really small and tbh to me congruent to ion propulsion and would need orders of magnitude in order to even come close to what "they" supposedly have. he isn't pulling a super dooper vacuum, so i wonder if he's done different tests at different levels of vacuums to chart and see if the thrust changes

He *is* pulling a "super duper vacuum" because electron leakage through low pressure gasses makes getting any realistic kind of charge completely unfeasible.

Ion thrusters exist, the physics is very well understood and pretty much optimized, satellites use them. You need to put fuel into them because those ions it's throwing are coming from something.

These are not that.

@cjd @lain there's still a very thin atmosphere, which is what ion thrusters in space use, except they try and juice it with noble gasses but it's similar amounts of thrust, except that he's still having to keep thousands of volts on the plate to see this tiny amount. even with very little gas particles, you're still going to ionize some stray particles here and there, and i haven't done any math or anything but it seems plausible to me that it would explain all of the thrust we're seeing here. it's nothing like reports of the tr3b going twenty billion miles per hour in an instant, i don't think we're going to get there with forces so imperceptible that we have to pick it up over hours in a specialized measurement rig, although i bet the head electrostatic guy probably knows more than i do so who knows.

i'd really like to see a f117, a b1, and maybe even a b21 and tr3b in person one day. maybe if they declassify something i'll make a big vacation to the smithsonian or something, i should probably do that before i die anyways i think idk. i bet i could probably spend at least a week just going between all the smithsonian museums

also i just had a funny thought. well what's the most magical thing we know of right now, maybe there's a lot of cool stuff with quantum dots and whatever but like, what i mean air conditioning is pretty much like magic, we suddenly get like 3-4x the amount of energy that we put in, that's pretty magic. so what if instead of like the current ufo lore where it's weird quantum properties of an exotic metamaterial or something, the antigrav is literally just a unit that sits in the middle and looks like a window air conditioning unit, but somehow conducts plasma all around the outside or something and takes advantage of a special phase change between a certain kind of gas and plasma or something. then it'd break in space and so they'd have to call the repair ufo and then this alien in a cap and overalls and red toolbox comes out and is like "well they'res yure prablem. yer compresser's done gone out"

@cjd @lain i meant to respond to this post but i responded to the wrong post, but this is what i said originally

> actually ignore me, he's saying the charge is just sitting there on the plates, that's crazy

buuuuuuuut it still feels like ionic thrust to me tbhe i wrote that other very long comment bout it

They shielded it to exclude ions, and a lot of people have worked on this, everybody assumes it's ions, that's literally the first experiment anyone does is to exclude the possibility that it's ions...

@cjd @lain you can't shield it to exclude ions when you create ions by ionizing stray particles that are still floating around in the near vacuum, except there's really not that many stray particles so you only see extremely weak effects from it, but you're right, i feel like nasa electrostatic guy would know better than me idk. idk how you can totally remove ions when you still have gas particles floating next to 30k volts

Spinning gyroscopes lose weight too, no electricity needed. Again, very small effect, but very reproducible.

@cjd @lain well now i'm seeing that he's claiming that it goes in the opposite direction of ion wind so something fucky is maybe happening but i wouldn't put it past their weird test setup, maybe they really just need to shoot this thing out into space pretty far

@jeff @sun @georgia @shibao
the_mkultra_hits.webm

They're working on them for satellite lifters, because unlike ion thrusters they don't need any fuel so they can run forever. Not a lot of power, but the "run forever" thing is hard to ignore...

@cjd @lain i mean true but also throw another one up that uses some scoops to scoop up very low density gas particles and funnel it into an ion generator and see if that does any better or worse

In space there isn't much out there, I don't think there's enough to scoop up and use for ion propulsion, otherwise satellite guys would be on that one because ion thrusters are a pretty mature technology.

@cjd @lain i mean if you're going to need to keep a plate charged to 30k volts for hours that will also use a lot of energy depending on the parasitic losses, but if you're not scooping a lot of ions then you won't use lose any charge for the thrust anyways.

there might not be a lot of particles outside of low earth orbit but there's definitely still a lot (relatively to none) of particles, the only reason we can see a lot of nebulas is because there's random hydrogen and sometimes helium ions in the middle of empty space

but it should be really easy to tell how much of their thrust corresponds to the particle density of the atmosphere they're testing in, this really should be easy to tell without needing to send something to space

Charged plates is not how ion thrusters work. They ionize a gas and then accelerate it using electromagnets.

@cjd @lain the space ones usually use electrostatic fields. but if you have a charged plate it doesn't really matter, unless it's a totally independent plate floating along in space, it will have electrostatic forces in some directors more than others, which if all the shit is on the front, then any stray ions will get pushed out the other way

@cjd @lain doesn't really matter if it's not like an edge or a thin wire* when you're talking about such small acceleration in an ion rich environment (nearish vacuum gas atmosphere)

So I suppose you think the EMdrive is also spewing ions... I mean, it sounds like you know more than NASA...

@cjd @lain i mean they kinda ended up proving that all the em drive results were due to errors in 2021 soooo

@cjd @lain anyways all i'm saying is that this is very far from where the ufo people say antigravity research was even in like the 50s and shit and that's the kind of thing i would be interested in more than tiny paperclip effects that need entire research papers to just separate them from measurement errors lol

@shibao @cjd @lain they will tell you that antigravity was first invented by a teenager in the 1920s and it's been suppressed since then

It's not really that wrong, it's just that it only makes a few milligrams of thrust which is not useful for anything.

But it pisses off physicists because it doesn't fit their models...

Physics is LOADED with these inconvenient little party tricks that are not really useful for anything, but also cannot be explained by anyone in the mainstream orthodoxy.

If you like to troll, just memorize them and bring them up whenever you meet a physicist...

@cjd @lain @shibao I was at a wedding reception because I knew the bride and met the groom. He told me he was working on antigravity and people were trying to kill him. I don't know what happened to them, that was ten years ago.

@sun @cjd @lain damn that's interesting

@cjd @lain @shibao @sun fuck i could've used this a few years back on an asshole snobby particle physicist.

There's a ton of simple boring stuff like the T.T. Brown capacitor we were discussing earlier. Also gyroscopes lose weight, but only if they're spinning in one direction, not the other. Also gravity decreases during an eclipse, etc etc etc... Easy to reproduce.

Then you have the cold fusion stuff which really makes people crazy. There's so many things out there and there's no theoretical foundation for any of it, these guys just keep trying random things and randomly it will do something unexpected, but then it'll stop and nobody can explain any of it. You hear these guys talk and you can see that it just drove them mad.

Then you've got Wilhelm Reich, and the whole Orgone thing. There's this one experiment, thermal anomaly, which has been reproduced over and over, and nobody can explain it. If you follow his theories, that stuff is a real mindfuck, but at the heart of it, there is at least one or two experiments that can't be explained...

@cjd @lain @bonifartius @shibao my life has intersected orgonomy multiple times. I knew a legitimate teenage genius who built a cloudbuster and claimed it worked but I never got around to seeing it.

I had a teacher at university that told me that the reason you can tell someone is looking at you from behind is that eyes are orgone accumulators.

at the gem shows in arizona people are always selling orgone pyramids

@sun @bonifartius @cjd @shibao
> I had a teacher at university that told me that the reason you can tell someone is looking at you from behind is that eyes are orgone accumulators.

Absolutely insane but I believe it

@lain @bonifartius @cjd @shibao I chose to hang around interesting people and not question things and I learned a lot.

> people are always selling orgone pyramids

AFAIK those pyramids are not orgone accumulators in any original sense of the term. What you need to fit Reich's design is a container made of alternating layers of conductive and insulating material, and you get an accumulation inside of this container.

@cjd @lain @bonifartius @shibao yeah I don't think they work. the orgone boxes also should have heavy oxidation on them, which is supposedly why the FDA tests didn't work.

I remember reading one scientist got one for his wife because he said she'd sit in the box for hours a day instead of talking to him, whether or not it would work

> she'd sit in the box for hours a day instead of talking to him

So, depending on your definition of "work".... 😏

BTW: Exposing yourself to high doses of orgone is probably not a great idea - effects are not well understood. I seem to recall in the cancer-mouse experiments, the mice lived a bit longer but the cancer thrived a lot more.

@lain @bonifartius @cjd @shibao @sun my friend's university teach told her how he was abducted and anally probed by aliens. I'm not sure I trust university teachers any more.

@sun @lain @cjd @shibao how are we going to invent an anti-gravity anything when we don't even know what gravity really is

@newt @lain @bonifartius @cjd @shibao @sun When I was still in uni, a math prof got surprised by cops in the evening for tax evasion. I met two cops with SMGs and body armor in an elevator and learned the next day about it.

@lain @bonifartius @cjd @shibao @sun oh the CIA did a bunch of testing on this in project stargate, i read through the declassified files on stream. they measured galvanic skin response to test if someone's body reacted to being looked at, and it did so irrespective of distance and even through cameras, strongly implying that the something that orgone/spiritual energy/whatever you wanna call it doesn't interact with physical distances in a way that makes sense under current models of physics, and that "psychic power" is just a thing all humans have in different amounts that mostly works subconsciously

I used to have the handbook and corresponded with Dr. James DeMeo for a while many moons ago. You need certain kinds of steel wool and steel sheet metal and certain kinds of organic material to make a proper accumulator and if you don't know how they are supposed to work or you bring your cell phone inside one you're just going to cook yourself. You can't use an accumulator anywhere near a cellphone tower or you'll fry yourself. Making the bio packs or the shooters is better (safer) policy and after many experiments on my own I could not determine any real benefits or real anything about orgone. Except you can see the red and blue dots if you go out on a sunny day and pretend like you threw a basketball about 7ft above your head and focus on it. The dancing dot phenomenon seems to occur, but seeing it doesn't cure cancer.

@notabnormal @cjd @sun @lain @bonifartius @shibao thing is that there is emf pollution everywhere nowadays so if you built an accumulator you're just accumulating that

in contrast the pyramids apparently cleanse them using the embedded crystals

The pyramids were never discussed by Reich, DeMeo, as far as I can tell and years ago DeMeo got very angry with me for asking him about them at all since he considered them new age quackery that used "orgone" fraudulently and discredited Reich's actual repeatable experiments. I remember as a 17 year old I made something saying it directed orgone and it said to use steel BBs and double terminate quartz crystals and so now whenever I hear about orgone pyramids or such things I think of new age, crystal aura healing energies, wicca, astrology, homeopathy, and tarot cards.