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@georgia Oh so you're a Zionist plant on the fediverse that believes "regime change" is what Iran needs and not what Israel needs?
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@georgia You said you think Iran is the problem. Not the genocidal Israel that controls the US. This isn't about "religious wars" is it? Israel already committed genocide on Palestine with the full support of the US. But somehow you're saying Iran is the problem? How is that a "religious war"?
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@georgia Denounce the Talmud for me and we can continue this convo. You did clearly say Iran's religion was the problem. Take a chill pill.
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@georgia Yeah like I thought full of bullshit. Where did "Denounce the talmud" slip past you? It was pretty clear and your reply make zero sense at all. You're a Zionist plant on the fediverse among MANY others. A genocidal maniac that supports all Epstein did because it made Isn'treal great again.
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@georgia Cunt. Fuck you and all who sail with you.
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@Lux @georgia
Hello there. As someone who used to be muslim, georgia hasn't said anything wrong, and was correctly using islamic terminology, so I don't get why you had to say any of the off the wall things that you did, which had nothing to do with the kitty cat's points.
It is a fact that the islamic world has a fitna problem. It is a fact that they need to be more in tune with their fitra.
sincerely, an ex Talib al 'im of the Hanafi madhab of Sunni Islam, specializing in Fiqhi Law
Hello there. As someone who used to be muslim, georgia hasn't said anything wrong, and was correctly using islamic terminology, so I don't get why you had to say any of the off the wall things that you did, which had nothing to do with the kitty cat's points.
It is a fact that the islamic world has a fitna problem. It is a fact that they need to be more in tune with their fitra.
sincerely, an ex Talib al 'im of the Hanafi madhab of Sunni Islam, specializing in Fiqhi Law
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@technicallydifficult @georgia Fuck you as well Genocide apologist.
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@technicallydifficult @georgia Iran has conducted itself for decades with far more dignity and sincerity than Isn'treal or America.
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@technicallydifficult @georgia I know Isn'treal committed genocide on Palestine and no Muslim country has done the same. Judge by actions not words. The US golum and Isn'treal are the genocidal maniacs.
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@technicallydifficult @georgia LMFAO! You can type all that and still not denounce the Talmuld? Fuck you.
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@technicallydifficult @georgia So you can denounce it then right?
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@technicallydifficult @georgia So you can just denounce it because it's meaningless right?
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@technicallydifficult @Lux theres good and bad stuff in the talmud like in most scriptures but the talmud is made off to be completely and uniquely evil by sufferers of the oldest hatred. theres a lot of fake talmud verses too. but the anti-jesus stuff is real and I'm not fond of that because I believe jesus was an avatara
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@georgia @technicallydifficult An abstracting bullshit reply if ever I saw one. Distract and hope they don;t press the point. Nice. Well done.
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shall we denounce a dictionary next because it has vulgar words in it? I certainly disagree with some of what is in the talmud, but like I said, it's the record of argument. Everyone disagrees with one of the sides in an argument. I also both agree with and disagree with parts of Sahih al Bukhari, and Riyadh as Saliheen. But this conversation is not even about judaism, it's about Islamic terms and sufi ideas. (and you being apparently illiterate)
shall we denounce a dictionary next because it has vulgar words in it? I certainly disagree with some of what is in the talmud, but like I said, it's the record of argument. Everyone disagrees with one of the sides in an argument. I also both agree with and disagree with parts of Sahih al Bukhari, and Riyadh as Saliheen. But this conversation is not even about judaism, it's about Islamic terms and sufi ideas. (and you being apparently illiterate)
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@Lux @technicallydifficult "denounce it!!! even if it means nothing!! denounce it!!!" yeah I'm not playing your games no more. I gave an honest answer.
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@technicallydifficult @georgia Are you for fucking real? Just denounce the Talmud! You already told me it's meaningless. It should be easy? Keep going and you look worse and worse. Keep digging that grave it looks god on you.
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@georgia @technicallydifficult Oh so.. no.. Muslim's are the problem and I won't denounce the Talmud. I think everyone reading this chat knows exactly where you are coming from.
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@technicallydifficult @georgia And hiding behind Hebrew is how you get away with being the cunts you are. Accuse others.. Fuck off and die the both of you. I hope the next missile from Iran gets you.
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@Lux @technicallydifficult I think everyone who has been following our entire convo thinks youre illiterate at best
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@georgia @technicallydifficult Why? I put good case. It's you who that's struggling to defend genocide.
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@technicallydifficult @georgia You're still a genocide defending cunt though however you cut it.
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@technicallydifficult @georgia And the Talmud denouncing comes.. when?
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@Lux @technicallydifficult neither of us defended genocide by opposing fitna. nor do we possess the hatred that makes genocides happen. you, on the contrary, hate jews enough to wish us both dead because we didnt denounce the talmud enough. you are only righteous in your own conceit.
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@Lux @georgia
Just because you make a demmand does not mean it will happen. I don't denounce things I have not thouroughly investigated to see if that is warranted, and certainly not just because of a belligerant camel with a date stone for a brain has demmanded it of me. (date stone might be too generous, perhaps it's a miswak seed)
Just because you make a demmand does not mean it will happen. I don't denounce things I have not thouroughly investigated to see if that is warranted, and certainly not just because of a belligerant camel with a date stone for a brain has demmanded it of me. (date stone might be too generous, perhaps it's a miswak seed)
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@georgia @technicallydifficult Neither of you ever denounced the Talmud! Not once and I asked how many times? Where do I say I hate Jews? I never did! I think Isn'real as is exists is an abomination that controls the US. I'm not "antisemtic" I just think Isn'treal has genocidal tendencies and neither if you would denounce the Talmud, It's al;most like you recoil from just being called out as Jews! And why would that be?
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@technicallydifficult @georgia Oh easy then. Just denounce the Talmud. Like I asked you before! Off the hook, whole different problem. Go on. Do it. Should be easy.
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@technicallydifficult @Lux theres a talmud quote in the quran actually
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@technicallydifficult @georgia LMFAO!!!! you're quoting Islamic law to defend you not denouncing the Taldud? Fuck off and die with that. But thanks for the laugh.
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@Lux @technicallydifficult you claim to support the palestinians who are mostly muslim yet you dont give a shit about the Islamic terms and concepts we are discussing. bro you just hate jews.
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@georgia @technicallydifficult WTF does that mean? just denounce the Talmud for me then we all know where we stand.. Oh ..you can't.. So you are a Zionist Jew like I said about an hour ago. You support the genocide of Islam and Palestine for "the greater Israel" and fuck the rest of the planet while you get what you want. Well I got news for you. The rest of the planet doesn't like it. So Fuck You. Every day you drag this out is another day the world hates you.
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@technicallydifficult @georgia You forgot your meds. Try English MFr.
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@Lux @georgia
you're proving the point I just made. Anyone who has read Qur'an and As Seerat knows what I was referring to, You claim to love muslims and islam so much, but you haven't read anything and you don't know anything, and you are very arrogant in your ignorance.
If you want to educate yourself, then read Surah al Massad and Ibn Kathir's As Seerah An Nabawiyya voolume 1.
you're proving the point I just made. Anyone who has read Qur'an and As Seerat knows what I was referring to, You claim to love muslims and islam so much, but you haven't read anything and you don't know anything, and you are very arrogant in your ignorance.
If you want to educate yourself, then read Surah al Massad and Ibn Kathir's As Seerah An Nabawiyya voolume 1.
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@technicallydifficult @georgia So about now is when you DENOUNCE THE TALMUD?
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@technicallydifficult @georgia So you denounce the Talmud now then?
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@Lux @georgia
Nope. You have not provided your daleel as to why. Show me your daleel as to why I should denounce a book actively used in Islamic scholarship? Be sure to include references and quotes, and show me why you think a follower of the Hanafi Madhab which is based on a mix of Jewish and Islamic Shari'a should reject the context for the Hanafi Shari'a.
Nope. You have not provided your daleel as to why. Show me your daleel as to why I should denounce a book actively used in Islamic scholarship? Be sure to include references and quotes, and show me why you think a follower of the Hanafi Madhab which is based on a mix of Jewish and Islamic Shari'a should reject the context for the Hanafi Shari'a.
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@Lux @georgia
I studied Shari'a and Fiqh. The Talmud was used by Imam Abu Hanifa to fill in the gaps in Islamic Shari'a where things like Diet, customs, and so on were concerned. Hanafi Madhab Sunnis eat Kosher animals only with the exception of camels. Hanafi do not eat shellfish. Hanafi rest on the sabbath. Hanafi use the Tawrah and Talmud as a reference of context when making Fatawah and interpreting the Fiqh.
So you must provide substantial daleel as to why an Islamic school of law must abandon a full third of its legal tradition just because you don't like B'nai Ysrail. Go on. Show me.
I studied Shari'a and Fiqh. The Talmud was used by Imam Abu Hanifa to fill in the gaps in Islamic Shari'a where things like Diet, customs, and so on were concerned. Hanafi Madhab Sunnis eat Kosher animals only with the exception of camels. Hanafi do not eat shellfish. Hanafi rest on the sabbath. Hanafi use the Tawrah and Talmud as a reference of context when making Fatawah and interpreting the Fiqh.
So you must provide substantial daleel as to why an Islamic school of law must abandon a full third of its legal tradition just because you don't like B'nai Ysrail. Go on. Show me.
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@technicallydifficult @georgia So you're a tranny just like most of eglin? Good for you.. So far.
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@Lux @technicallydifficult @georgia Jesus bro I have no favorites here but have you spent much time in the middle east? Dignity isn't a word I'd use in regard to Iran or the other two or for that matter any nation's conduct since the beginning of recorded history.
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@Lux @technicallydifficult @georgia
> .. and no Muslim country has done the same.
LOL.. Armenian genocide.
> The Armenian genocide[a] was the systematic destruction of the Armenian people and identity in the Ottoman Empire during World War I. Spearheaded by the ruling Committee of Union and Progress (CUP), it was implemented primarily through the mass murder of around one million Armenians during death marches to the Syrian desert and the forced Islamization of others, primarily women and children.
> .. and no Muslim country has done the same.
LOL.. Armenian genocide.
> The Armenian genocide[a] was the systematic destruction of the Armenian people and identity in the Ottoman Empire during World War I. Spearheaded by the ruling Committee of Union and Progress (CUP), it was implemented primarily through the mass murder of around one million Armenians during death marches to the Syrian desert and the forced Islamization of others, primarily women and children.
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explanation of the origin of intrareligious civil war, nsfw
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@georgia
the fitna has been rolling since Mo decided to do Maria on Aisha's day in Hafsa's bed and Fatima took Mo's side instead of being angry like the wives were.. and mo made up a new ayat to cover his own butt, and Aisha called him out on it.
After Mo died, maria was sold off, Hafsa and Aisha became the shadow leadership of the Sunni faction, Fatima became the Shadow leader of the Shi'a faction. Fatima's husband Ali was passed up for becoming the Caliph, and Abu Bakr as Saddiq (father of Aisha) became the first Caliph at Aisha's recommendation. Fatima's faction was slandered. Umar ibn al khattab died under mysterious circumstances, with both sides pointing fingers. But the Shi'a faction got in some influence with Uthman ibn Farooq, So Aisha had him assasinated. Then there was Ali ibn abi Talib (husband of Fatima) who was caliph for a few weeks before Aisha had him and his brothers assasinated, and their lands and Fatima's farms seized, and Fatima and the Shi'a went to Basra after being expelled from Makkah and Madinah. and they began teaching Shi'a sect beliefs and Aisha had them declared heretics, and led an army of 60,000 on Basra against the Shi'a and their Ibadi allies. Culminating in the battle of Al Jamal. Ibadi sect moved to Oman, And split into Zaydi and Ibadi, and the Zaydi moved to Yemen. Shi'a moved to Persia mostly, but Aisha was away for too long, and the Umayyad family set themselves up as the new Caliphs. A couple hundred years later, the Shi'a rebelled and installed the Abassyd Caliphate. The last enclave of the Umayyads was in the Emirate of Cordoba which fell in 1448.
the fitna has been rolling since Mo decided to do Maria on Aisha's day in Hafsa's bed and Fatima took Mo's side instead of being angry like the wives were.. and mo made up a new ayat to cover his own butt, and Aisha called him out on it.
After Mo died, maria was sold off, Hafsa and Aisha became the shadow leadership of the Sunni faction, Fatima became the Shadow leader of the Shi'a faction. Fatima's husband Ali was passed up for becoming the Caliph, and Abu Bakr as Saddiq (father of Aisha) became the first Caliph at Aisha's recommendation. Fatima's faction was slandered. Umar ibn al khattab died under mysterious circumstances, with both sides pointing fingers. But the Shi'a faction got in some influence with Uthman ibn Farooq, So Aisha had him assasinated. Then there was Ali ibn abi Talib (husband of Fatima) who was caliph for a few weeks before Aisha had him and his brothers assasinated, and their lands and Fatima's farms seized, and Fatima and the Shi'a went to Basra after being expelled from Makkah and Madinah. and they began teaching Shi'a sect beliefs and Aisha had them declared heretics, and led an army of 60,000 on Basra against the Shi'a and their Ibadi allies. Culminating in the battle of Al Jamal. Ibadi sect moved to Oman, And split into Zaydi and Ibadi, and the Zaydi moved to Yemen. Shi'a moved to Persia mostly, but Aisha was away for too long, and the Umayyad family set themselves up as the new Caliphs. A couple hundred years later, the Shi'a rebelled and installed the Abassyd Caliphate. The last enclave of the Umayyads was in the Emirate of Cordoba which fell in 1448.
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