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i fucking hate the antiquated notion that the male contributes the seed of the new organism and the female germinates it in her womb. the female both contributes an equal amount of genetic material AND gestates the fetus. no one can deny she has vastly more of a share in reproduction, which for a man is wholly pleasurable and a woman is mostly quite painful and arduous.
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@georgia in seed plants, the seed is borne on the female reproductive part (fern reproduction works a lot more like animal reproduction... kinda), so ????

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Listens to Baroque while coding murder.exe newt

@georgia calling dealing with women "pleasurable" is a blatant lie
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@newt if sex and fatherhood isnt joyful for you I'm fairly certain youre doing it wrong
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Listens to Baroque while coding murder.exe newt

@georgia dunno, I haven’t tried fatherhood yet. But seriously, have you even met women? Most of them are annoying at best. Only a rare woman is worse getting in bed with.
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@newt if youre starting families with every random woman, again with the "doing it wrong". I stand by what I said.
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@newt @georgia I have met many a woman and view them with far more sympathy and less distaste than most men.

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Listens to Baroque while coding murder.exe newt

@georgia who said anything about starting families? Even putting my dick into one would be nightmarish. I’ve no idea how some dudes hook up with a new girl every week, for me this would be hell.
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@newt "who said anything" my post is about fatherhood vs motherhood, not casual sex
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Listens to Baroque while coding murder.exe newt

@georgia no, your post is about pleasure vs spending resources.

> for a man is wholly pleasurable

This part isn’t necessarily true. Also, many women go insane while pregnant. Not to mention their inability to work and the need for support from a man. We all sympathise with single mothers for a reason, because they are massively fucked as opposed to mothers who have a caring husband.
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@georgia long story short, making and raising children is a full time job for both parents.
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@lain @newt i love women. if he loves men and hates women he should be having sex with men.
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@georgia @newt i can't agree, you said that htis is about motherhood vs fatherhood. in that case, i think your characterization of fatherhood being essentially sex and then nothing is a very strange one.
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@lain @newt to be more accurate my post was about the male reproductive role, not fatherhood. i used fatherhood euphemistically specifically to contrast reproductive sex with casual sex. fatherhood occurs mostly after birth, reproduction before it. the content of my post (addressing outdated theories of reproduction where the sperm is basically a homonculus and the female germinates it) is not "a father is useless" (although many fathers are, including mine). anyway i don't think its controversial that the male reproductive role is essentially sex.
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