rape and most misogyny would end if humans had bird (not waterfowl) genitals and reproductive/parental roles. also if men sang like birds I might like them more.

@georgia we wish you a fauci science we wish you a fauci science

We wish you a fauci science and a hypothetical new year!!!!!!! 🎊

@georgia how so?

@georgia i believe this man is wanted for rape and misogyny.

@georgia I've been saying for years that we need to bring back whistling in public.

@triodug @georgia i always whistle to myself or talk to myself in public, but only when there's no one else around

@arcana birds dont have phalluses they have cloacal vents. a world without dick sounds like a utopia to me. also most birds share feeding and parenting and many mate for life.

@Hyperhidrosis youre soy

@foxcat @georgia you need to start whistle mogging. They must hear your beautiful tunes!!!

@georgia i got a boyfriend by singing like a bird
he thought i had rizz

@paula8 holy based

@georgia
don't give the transhumanists silly idea

@dagda transhumanists dont care about ending rape they only care about making themselves fake immortal

@georgia what if thiel or musk trooned out tho. At least the latter may be autistic enough to

@georgia @arcana Jews not wanting to remove dicks from the world challenge: impossible

@BasedLunatic @arcana has nothing to do with me being a Jew and everything to do with me being a woman and a lesbian

@georgia @arcana a world without dicks means a world without crudely drawn weiners scribbled on a dirty car window. I do not want to live in that world.

@triodug @arcana you will have your cloacal vent and you will like it

@georgia @arcana those are harder to draw 😩

@georgia @triodug @arcana gonna start a political movement where i hornypost pretending io have a cloaca

i think

@georgia @triodug what is your practical solution to achieving this world?

@arcana @triodug I have none I'm just shitposting. I dont believe in altering Gods creation for the most part except to make people happier in a way that doesnt harm them spirituality. (like cosmetic surgery does)

@dagda @georgia

@georgia @arcana most lesbians wouldn’t want to remove dicks from world because it would be end of humanity. This some Talmudic lesbianism

@georgia @arcana and most women love dick don’t see what you being a woman have to do with wanting to remove dicks from planet

@BasedLunatic @georgia >talmudic lesbianism

@lucy @dagda I wonder how trans discourse would change when hitler is a transbian. musks dick is already broken so hes basically a woman pffft.

@georgia @triodug where do you draw the line with that? What is an example of an alteration that does harm spiritually and an alteration that doesn’t?

@BasedLunatic @arcana you mistake my love of birds for serious policy

@georgia @arcana I am just trying to make some offensive humor

@lucy @dagda @georgia Ellen Musk

@arcana @triodug cosmetic surgeries cause spiritual harm. however happy they make you, you suffer more in the hereafter. haircuts dont. surgeries of convenience or health dont either. I guess theres a degree of semantics involved.

@arcana @dagda @lucy have you seen the meme where Christians stopped naming their kids Ellen when Ellen degeneres and Ellen page came out. it would be a repeat of that but worse.

@georgia @triodug but again, where do you draw the line with that? Would you put fixing pectus excavatum and getting a breast augmentation in the same category?

@georgia @arcana @dagda it'd be funny but also just fuel the "trans discourse" easily scared people need to soy out over

@lucy @georgia
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@arcana @triodug deformity that doesnt cause deleterious health effects including making a person kill or maim themselves shouldnt be treated. if youre getting your septum fixed, dont also get your bridge straightened.

@georgia @arcana as a lesbian how do you feel about Norwegian women. Would or wouldn’t
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@georgia @arcana The world of birds isn't as sigma as it seems. they face the same problem we do. Except India you're right about india.

@BasedLunatic @arcana @georgia

@BasedLunatic @arcana not super into nordics personally. my favorite Aryans are scots-irish.

@georgia @lucy
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@dagda @lucy girl musk looks too much like boy musk to be bangworthy

@georgia @triodug how is this determined though? Why would god not want people to fix cosmetic issues but be okay with fixing functional issues? If it’s god’s will that people were born with that body and with those issues, why would amending it under either circumstance be okay?

Either it’s both okay or none of it is surely?

@georgia @lucy
she the most trve femcel alive

@dagda @lucy @georgia

@verita84 @arcana @georgia @BasedLunatic
Hi Horny, I'm Dad.

@alyx @arcana @georgia @BasedLunatic

@georgia @dagda mogs me

@arcana @triodug your argument is sophistic imo. its not as simple as "if you suffer and can suffer less, do that". the question is WHY you suffer. are you suffering from sickness of the body or from sickness of character (vanity).

@georgia @dagda don't wrench me im just being very funny

@lucy @dagda shut up cutie

@paula8 @dagda @lucy wow this aged so poorly

@georgia @arcana @triodug if you have a disfigurement that prevents you from living a painless life then cosmetic surgery is not about vanity

@georgia @dagda @lucy

>how do you feel about Norwegian women.

And yet you decided to groom your mom instead?

@lucy @arcana @triodug if physical function isnt impaired, youre only fueling identification with form, which is spiritually harmful.

@georgia @triodug why is there a different? If god made somebody, then that’s surely a divine creation both in terms of being ugly and being born with asthma?

Some would argue that cosmetic issues are also functional. Consider a graffiti ridden bus stop. To repaint the exterior to beautify it is just as worthwhile as repairing the seating within.

If a body is malformed, then it would naturally be god’s will that it be malformed in both aesthetic AND function?

To me, your argument does not seem to come from a divine source but more of a new age, human pleading of “no you’re already perfect, you don’t need a boob job” and “of course god would want people to use technology to remove childhood cancer”

I knew this nigger was zesty when he started waxing poetic about my junk.

@georgia @lucy @triodug what is the source for this?

@georgia @arcana @triodug wrong but you wouldn't get it

That nigga truly has some sugar in his tank

@arcana @lucy @triodug I dont have an upanishad that talks about rhinoplasty sorry

@georgia @lucy @triodug so this is your own interpretation? You’re sharing your own personal views and asserting to people that they are divine.

Also you cite Hinduism, and

1) Not everybody follows that religion. Preaching it to others is no different to an evangelical preaching to you about being a lesbian.

2) A lot of Indian Hindus are extremely pro transhumanism, far more so than Abrahamics.

You cloak Abrahamic Dualism in Dharmic language.

@arcana @triodug youve called me new age before and I'm not remotely. healing the sick is dharma. do you think sick people shouldnt be healed just because they didnt aquire sickness from their life circumstance but were born with it? meanwhile cosmetic surgery is not healing, it is harming. indulging identification with the physical appearance as a source of happiness is bad. it harms a person spiritually.

@arcana @lucy @triodug I'm not arguing this anymore your method of argument seems to be claiming I follow certain ideologies which I dont as well as misstating my position

@Hyperhidrosis @arcana @georgia we need to find a rapist bird and make it our mascot

@basadeskaiser @arcana @georgia

@georgia @lucy @triodug I’m arguing because you’re actively preaching to people on here with zero basis other than your own personal biases and beliefs. What you believe on the nature of the divine is no more valid than what a Catholic priest may say or a neo-Druid may say.

@georgia @arcana @triodug your opinion on this is against literal millennia of historical examples of alchemists pursuing physical immortality through esoteric means (the elixir of life). who are you to say that the Chinese, medieval Europeans, and countless others (including in India) were wrong? your view is simply a product of stupidity, nothing else

This thread turned a weird corner really quick.

@georgia @triodug I believe that the sick should be healed, but I also believe people should freely modify themselves as they see fit, and seek to empower themselves and their children through technology and engineering of the cosmos.

I do not believe it’s consistent to believe that the divine is anti body modification but to allow in circumstances where the alternative makes you feel bad. It is not logical.

@nemesis @georgia @triodug yes, the Rasashastra contains recipes and ideas regarding the Elixir of life, and there’s reference to Amrita as a kind of elixir of immortality

@matty @arcana @georgia @Goalkeeper @NonPlayableClown yes, the ladies love him. But the men hate him. He is based lunatic
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yes, the ladies my mom love him. But the men I hate make fun of him. He is based lunatic

Fixed your reply there retard.

@matty @arcana @georgia @Goalkeeper @NonPlayableClown this dog looks slightly concerned

@georgia @triodug Do you consider screening for and genetically engineering away congenital afflictions to be healing the sick or an affront to the divine and why?

@nemesis @arcana @triodug the fact that you are indulging in vituperation makes me think you experienced narcissistic injury from my words, so sorry I guess?

@georgia @nemesis @triodug it’s annoying to be preached at. You are behaving like an evangelical and people naturally do not like it.

@georgia @arcana it would be a world without dick, but it would not be short of cocks

Was that the talking dog from the 90s that used to say you shouldn't do drugs?

As if a talking dog is something you might encounter without having done them already...

@georgia @arcana One of my parakeets is a colossal sex pest, so if you think dick is the problem, I have news

I'm not sure, I never paid attention to any of that stuff

@georgia @arcana @triodug no, I'm "engaging in vituperation" because you are arrogantly trying to dictate spiritual beliefs to others as if you're a prophet speaking for the Source directly. my namesake, Nemesis, was the one who meted out punishment for such behavior---arrogance before the gods

@cjd @arcana @georgia @Goalkeeper @matty @NonPlayableClown only reason I started doing drugs at 14 is because the lectures about not doing drugs, and the the situations described about peer pressured into doing drugs with drawings gave me a kick. It seemed exiting to me. But I don’t do drugs

Man none of you niggas ever watched Arthur?

Nigga I have never watched a single anime in my life

Dicey we all know mother doesn't like it when you talk to other girls.

@georgia @arcana @triodug you aren't saying "I believe X because Y and Z" or "I believe X because it makes sense to me" or even just "I believe X". you're saying "god says X, and disagreement with X is spiritually harmful and makes you lesser". that's a hubristic attitude

wtf Dicey yandere mom arc???

Have tried this method there bud?

Especially chicks with dicks.

@arcana @triodug I'll preface this with "my belief is" and hopefully itll offend no one. my belief is that screening for a congenital disease and then killing a fetus/embryo because its deformed or sick before it gestates is wrong. even though it is often based on the genuine concern for a future child, it is misguided and it is violence (himsa) which is bad karma. also in many cases like with downs syndrome which usually produces happy children parents are making the selfish choice of "I want a normal baby", thinking they are avoiding future suffering from the burden of a deformed or sick child, however they are only guaranteeing worse suffering from the evil (poor karma) act of killing a life.

however, screening gametes before conception is good because it prevents suffering without destroying life because of a value judgment (which i consider to be playing God). my thoughts on genetic engineering are mostly negative but thats because only the rich will benefit, creating the worst caste system we've ever seen. in my opinion, that is.

@nemesis @arcana @triodug I'm arrogant yeah but so are those who want to live forever without abandoning their ego.

@georgia @nemesis @triodug in your opinion

@arcana @nemesis @triodug mhm!

@georgia @triodug and you’re entitled to that opinion, but other opinions exist

@arcana @triodug yes

@georgia @nemesis @triodug in other opinions and other religious beliefs, such things are divine. To strive for greatness and glory, and apotheosis is divine.

The Egyptians explicitly built rituals and attempted to engineer physical immortality through magic for example, and they wrote down many spells and ideas in their quest for physical immortality.

Having spoken to Isis (not the bad thing) personally, I believe the divine is 100% in favour of such things. As Isis climbed the ranks of power through mastery of magic and intrigue, so too should great people.

@georgia @arcana @triodug from having talked to hidden about it theres some interpretations of "abandoning your ego" that I would be open to, but in any case that's orthogonal to immortality. are you aware that bodily life extension was exactly the goal of many ayurveda practitioners---and indeed that the etymology of ayurveda is literally "longevity"? or, for that matter, than india today has one of the highest levels of public support for human genetic engineering of any country in the world? both the content of your belief as well as the preachy attitude with which you convey it are arguably closer to the abrahamic religions than the dharmic ones

@nemesis @arcana @triodug I'd disagree that my perspective is abrahamic. very long life is considered a blessing from God in abrahamic religion no different from other religions. life extension is a huge part of Ayurveda and yoga, and thats not a bad thing. ive read about numerous sadhana aimed at prolonging life, which I never said I was opposed to--I support prolonging life as part of improving quality of life as long as its not at the cost of other human life or extreme animal life or suffering. my perspective is not "long life bad", its that death is a normal and natural part of life and that despite what arcana said about the nectar of immortality, even Brahma is mortal. everyone but the Supreme Lord is mortal even though there have been "immortal yogis" in dharmic as well as daoist contexts and probably in other schools too. however, those people were enlightened, and all of them eventually died-- "immortal" is just a term, just like immortal memory. everything dies eventually but God, and that is natural and good. entropy always wins. thats my perspective. it matters not that many indians support transhumanism, most preists watch porn. that doesn't make it right.

@georgia @arcana @triodug now you're just moving the goal posts and being dishonest here

> I support prolonging life as part of improving quality of life as long as its not at the cost of other human life or extreme animal life or suffering. my perspective is not "long life bad"

that is exactly what physical immortality is about, though, ending aging. elevating the issue to "everything dies eventually" is just a diversion, the actual concrete point of dispute here is technology aimed at negligible senescence, not overcoming the heat death of the universe or whatever. what you've been trying to argue previously is that theres a fundamental difference between scary transhumanist things like embryo screening or radical life extension and mundane things like treating smallpox, and what you're saying here cannot justify such a distinction. at least actual primitivists like hidden are consistent in rejecting high-technology in general, you're just calibrating your moral views to whatever medical technology is already adopted enough to seem normal to you

> it matters not that many indians support transhumanism, most preists watch porn. that doesn't make it right.

you're entitled to think actual raised-from-birth hindus are all doing their religion wrong, but do you see how this is a hubristic attitude? I see no sign you're a uniquely enlightened person in this respect. also, it's not just that many indians are pro-transhumanism, its that india is one of the only countries where high religiosity isn't a predictor of anti-transhumanist views

> I'd disagree that my perspective is abrahamic. very long life is considered a blessing from God in abrahamic religion no different from other religions

not true, its unique to the abrahamic religions that normal human lifespans are considered a rightful punishment from god in response to humanity's sinfulness, thats why pre flood humans in the old testament had multi century lifespans whereas modern humans are prevented from living from more than 120 years according to the old testament (genesis 6:3). and in today's world, christianity and islam are very predictive of hostility towards transhumanism, whereas buddhism, hinduism and daoism are not

@georgia Would've guessed Greeks/Italians for you. Thanks for answering. @BasedLunatic @arcana

@nemesis @arcana @triodug you asked me my views, I told you them, and now you are upset that I dont fit a preestablished paradigm like primitivism and that I'm not like an Indian Hindu in some regards. you and arcana are both leveling arguments along the lines of "I'm going to call you this ideological school". be it new age (laughable) or abrahamic. here is my opinion, all i can do is provide it:

I see nothing wrong with limiting or even ending aging as long as it doesnt cause human or animal suffering in its effort to prevent suffering. and as long such a technology is fairly distributed to benefit all of mankind. however, look at transhumanism in practice. abortion of babies with downs syndrome. the old taking blood from the young and poor. cruel experimentation on animals. this I could never support. furthermore, i believe the ideal way to end aging and indeed the ideal way to "transcend humanity" is yoga, not medical science. yoga harms none and benefits all. but since we are in kali yuga, few achieve yoga (and many exploit other people and animals).

further when people talk about immortality I assume they mean literal immortality, which would be most likely to occur in some sort of singularity scenario. I responded this way because arcana definitely seems to desire literal immortality. this I definitely dont support. I do distinguish desiring a life without the suffering and debility of aging with desiring total immortality of the ego-self. again, it is orthodox Hindu belief that even Brahma dies. as far as the singularity goes all "uploading the mind" does is create a soulless fascimile of you. I believe this interpretation is valid in every religion which believes people are ensouled. that is all.

@georgia @arcana I believe Ostriches are the only birds where the males take turns sitting on the eggs tho

also they're incredibly stupid and often their first eggs don't hatch because they don't know what they're doing

@georgia @arcana @triodug if thats your take on transhumanism, I think we disagree less than I thought. my personal goal is just ending aging of my physical body, not literal immortality in the sense you mean as it isnt relevant on any kind of reasonable timescale. in regards to mind uploads they are not what I would be after (nor arcana), I just want to preserve my actual physical body for longer than the natural 80+ years. and as for actually existing transhumanism", why dont you count e.g. vaccines as an example of such? those have greatly extended many people's lives through a modification of the body to be better-than-normal. same with prosthetics. or to take an example closer to home for me, transitioning gender is effectively a form of transhumanism and it felt like your dismissal of unnecessary or cosmetic body modification would reject it

I'm sorry if I was overly aggressive but bodily autonomy is something I consider more or less absolute and I can't stand those who would try to regulate what people can do with their own bodies. my comparison of you to abrahamics wasnt simply a matter of trying to put you in a box, its that attempts to regulate peoples' bodies is something I strongly associate with the abrahamic religions and a big part of what I would reject about them. the more right wing ones phrase it in a "abortion is murder, trans people are demonic, vaccines are the mark of the beast, repent sinner" way, the more left wing ones in a "god loves you the way you are ☀️" way, but phrasing in nice-sounding ways doesnt change the fact there's an iron fist in the velvet glove. many of your talking points here (aborting down syndrome babies is violence! cosmetic surgery is vanity! etc.) are pretty direct copies of what I've seen loads of christians (and jews) preach on X and the like, and the "I have the one true way, everything else is sinful" way you phrased it is also very christian-sounding. I wont doubt the sincerity of your views, but in highlighting the differences between you and indian hindus I just wanted to draw attention to the latent christianity (or rather in your case, latent judaism) that I suspect is underlying your takes

@nemesis @arcana @triodug I was barely raised Jewish and never identified with it strongly so no latent judiasm there. if anything, since I was raised to be a tikkun olam reform Jew, they think nothing of abortion. but abortion is very sinful in Hinduism as well as most if not all Orthodox world religions that I know of. its compared in Hindu thought to patricide. if anything my distaste for abortion developed with my appreciation for dharmic religion. same with my veganism. violence against a living thing is violence against a living thing. before I became spiritual my take was that it was a necessary evil. I still believe abortion is a right in cases of rape. as far as trans surgeries go, I am somewhat ambivalent. im strongly pro the right to do it, but i dont think its always spiritually salubrious. for instance, FFS as practiced is often highly cosmetic and enforces white cis dyadic beauty standards. myself I dont identify with any gender and am let's just say ambivalent about my natal sex (i was born female and choose to remain a woman because i think im cooler that way) so I relate to trans people somewhat but also dont. my rub with trans surgeries is that while they often save lives and alleviate suffering (huge pro), the illumined have no gender identity or any identity besides with Atman or any sexual attraction or other cravings. I am not enlightened by any means though, just agender.

@georgia @nemesis @triodug abortion lowers crime rates and is a net positive for society imo

@arcana @nemesis @triodug I don't believe in killing because a person might commit a crime. I don't believe in eugenics.

@arcana @nemesis @georgia @triodug
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considering the symbolism associated with phalluses and the connection between that symbolism and various weapons such as spears, swords, and clubs, as well as sceptres as a symbol of authority, I wonder how much of an impact that might have on human development and psychology. sometimes I wonder if the act of penetrating is fundamentally coded towards aggression or predation on some higher level, due to how, even discounting weaponry, the most basic tools of most predator species in nature are fangs to penetrate and devour flesh.