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most christians seem to have a very superficial and unbiblical view of heaven thats much more mundane than the real thing
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@sun@shitposter.world @georgia@netzsphaere.xyz if the angelic hosts are hanging around and are are equivalent to the brain melting versions as opposed to adult cupids- would be a little different experience.
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@georgia can you even know what heaven is like in the first place? What do you think of Swedenborg's description of heaven?
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@miscbrains @georgia in different parts of the bible different categories of angel were humanoid and some were not
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@mischievoustomato @georgia I'm not criticizing I just was curious, I've heard a lot of variations from christians on what heaven is like
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@georgia from what sources do you get your vision of heaven?

I don't have any particular comment on it I'm just curious
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@georgia It's okay, though, nobody is saved by their knowledge of heaven and we'll all laugh at what we got wrong when we get there.
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@sun basically viewing it as a very happy land up above where you reunite with your dead relatives and jesus is there too. whereas jesus emphasized that no one has a husband or wife in heaven
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@georgia yeah its true. there are plenty of christians that think though that heaven is just you get to stare at God for eternity because that is the best thing you could comprehend
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@georgia@netzsphaere.xyz @sun@shitposter.world this comes from the same folks that came up with "the rapture" and aint in the bible
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@binkle oh, here I'm talking about christian heaven but my personal view is this:
https://netzsphaere.xyz/notice/B6oYRxg1yXRRwJ8zGy
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@sun @georgia it's gonna be interesting to hear, but i'm not religious so I don't care. I'm not going there lol

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@sun@shitposter.world @georgia@netzsphaere.xyz Aside from that, i'd expect translation of the experience to be extremely lossy. If you experienced it via a vision, divine transmission, or even a near death experience- translating it into words, art, music, etc is only going to get sent back out through the individuals filters.
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@georgia ah yes I see! That roughly tracks with what I thought might be your conception although not being of the stripe I wouldn't have been able to say it in such detail. I also appreciate the disambiguation. Do you have a formulation of the Christian heaven which you would consider biblical or are you mostly just pointing out the lack of biblical grounding in most peoples' conceptions? (either is fine. Again no particular comment I'm just curious)
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@sun @georgia i basically dont listen to anyone who talks about heaven/hell because they're all wrong and stupid
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@binkle I see biblical christian heaven as a place of light filled with the holy presence of God where people are in a state of theosis with glorified bodies made of light and everyone serves God and is in a state of communion with Him
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@georgia @sun There are indications of a reunion with those you know and ancestors in other verses. Marriage in particular just doesn't have a theological purpose after death because you're already part of a greater thing.
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@Zettour @sun why do you need carnal family if you are adopted into Gods family?
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@georgia @Zettour mormonism is simultaneously more mundane and more interesting, family is built into the entire system in a coherent and meaningful way
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@georgia wow that's a lot closer to the way I've heard the church describe it than I was expecting! Nice hapyday I know you don't necessarily agree with it, but I appreciate that you have such a sharp definition of it
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@binkle ive read a lot of the bible, I believe much of it is divinely inspired :)
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@georgia @sun I assume to worship more effectively in some way. There's a lot about Christian theology that is not explicit.
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