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@anemone @7666 @patchuun you say antisemitic things sometimes, like in our conversation about the Holocaust in Lithuania
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@7666 @anemone @patchuun I dont believe youre antisemitic but do as you wish
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@patchuun @7666 @anemone see I think intention is really important in ethics, although both intent and actual effect matter in dharma
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@patchuun @7666 @anemone theyre supporting him with their votes and in denial of all his wrongdoing, that doesnt make them pro child rape inherently. if it were truly proved that trump has raped children, he would have very few supporters. I'm sure of that. people hate child rape, thats one thing thats actually bipartisan. I try to assume good faith in trump supporters even though I hate trump.
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@anemone @7666 "I'm not antisemitic when I say Jews (errrr zionists *cough*) love to rape and torture because theyre pure evil, I'm just against rape and torture!" yeah you see all your ideological opponents as ontologically evil so this conversation is headed nowhere.
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@anemone @7666 yes, you know what people believe more than they do
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@anemone @7666 if thats your genuine opinion, youre just wrong. people support either thing for far more nuanced and less malign reasons.
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@anemone @7666 or excuse me, "pro child-rape".
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@anemone @7666 I'm not twisting your words you said "they are the same picture" referring to Jews who support Israel, political grifters, and pedophiles. and now youve added another untruth, that every Republican is a pedophile. do you even take what you say seriously or is it all vituperation?
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@anemone @7666 moving the goalposts again, of course Republican Jews support Israel, most Jews in america do. but I can point to you plenty of Republican Jews that I know personally who are just religiously conservative not pro child rape and grift. but you called "that community" equivalent to grifters and pedophiles!
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@anemone @7666 you didnt say that though. you blamed all the pedophilia and political grift in the Republican party on Jews who support Israel by saying theyre "the same picture". thats antisemitic. pointing out that Israel is commiting genocide and apartheid isnt antisemitic, but comparing it to the holocaust is invidious and insensitive. the entire western media is complicit in denying that a genocide is ongoing, its normal to be ignorant about it and it certainly isnt an act of malice most of the time.
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@sun @7666 @anemone oh I wasnt trying to say 7666 is antisemitic, but that the "its the same picture" framing was
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@anemone @7666 upon reread you added the caveat but his initial post just said Jews, and even then saying Jews who support Israel are the same thing as pedophile grifters is antisemitism. a majority of Jews still support Israel, they just do so out of ignorance. they are usually not pedophiles or grifters (both classic judeophobic stereotypes).
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@anemone @7666 I dont support Israel but I can say from experience that most Jews who support the Israeli government only do so out of ignorance. and what you said wasnt "supporting Israel is evil" it was "trump supporters, Jews, pedophiles, and political grifters are *the same picture*". thats what you said. youre moving goalposts.
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@anemone @7666 its not true for Zionists either though, and the majority of world Jews would be considered Zionists because they believe in Israeli sovereignty and the law of return. you can't just say something blatantly antisemitic and say "oh I mean Zionists not Jews". it just gives people ammunition to say antizionism is antisemitism, which I dont believe.
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