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ah fuck i should've got my hair cut shorter
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@meowski @moth i'm not shaving my eyebrows you weirdo
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@boob i don't like how long it is already and it's only grown a couple milimeters
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@boob actually maybe like a centimetre and a half
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@meowski @moth i will if you livestream your suicide
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@meowski @moth i'm just trying to liberate you from suffering
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@meowski @moth i've seen older women shave theirs off and pencil them in, it's fucking weird
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@moth @nerthos @meowski i don't lactate enough to fill those mason jars
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@RehnSturm256 @moth @meowski i hate those and judge women with them
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@p @meowski @moth @nerthos just another day of mirth and merriment at the fediverse!
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@moth @RehnSturm256 @meowski my sister had an undercut they suck
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@moth @lain_os @meowski @nerthos @orekix that's a great haircut and a great icy stare, 11/10
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@p @meowski @RehnSturm256 @moth body hair can be cute though. like goosebumps comfyblush
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@Frankie @RehnSturm256 @meowski @moth i just want a longish bob. don't worry i'm not easily impressionable despite what SOME PEOPLE say.
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@VD15 @RehnSturm256 @Frankie @meowski @moth ew ow no
i don't even have my ears pierced
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@moth @VD15 @Frankie @RehnSturm256 @meowski tongue piercings can be hot tbh. same with eyebrow.
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@VD15 @Frankie @RehnSturm256 @meowski @moth
why don't you love and respect goth girls
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@p @RehnSturm256 @icedquinn @meowski @moth i think you chocked on a hair once and were pathologically scarred
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@Moon @RehnSturm256 @meowski @moth @p i didn't know they bred hypoallergenic women

bet in all serious that can't be true barring weird mutation. everyone has vellous hair, some just have more terminal hair.
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@RehnSturm256 @Frankie @meowski @moth it's a pain to upkeep. you have to shave it regularly and growing it out is awkward
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@p @RehnSturm256 @meowski @moth you can just brush out the telogenic hairs
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@p @RehnSturm256 @icedquinn @meowski @moth it's not an aesthetic downgrade adult women with hairless pussies look fucking weird
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@p @RehnSturm256 @icedquinn @meowski @moth remind me p, do you shave your nutsack?
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@moth @RehnSturm256 @icedquinn @meowski @p i imagine it could be fun to mix things up but that doesn't justify the itch and long stubbly growing out period
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@lain_os @moth @RehnSturm256 @meowski why is she hiding her eyebrows
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@p @RehnSturm256 @icedquinn @meowski @moth i like your idiom, it's whimsical
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@moth @boob @RehnSturm256 @meowski @p >having clothing preferences
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@p @boob @RehnSturm256 @icedquinn @meowski @moth you obviously, we have photographic proof
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@moth @RehnSturm256 @boob @meowski @p i almost never pay mind to clothing unless it conveys some semiotic substance
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@boob @moth @RehnSturm256 @meowski @p not really. i mix and match. i'm only picky about length and material.
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@moth @RehnSturm256 @boob @meowski @p i mean other peoples clothing. i care about the colors complementing eachother.
also how could anyone find being treated like child erotic i don't get it.
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@moth @RehnSturm256 @boob @meowski @p maybe i need to gain a modicum of self reliance to appreciate it
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@boob @RehnSturm256 @meowski @moth @p well the standard is not boring, yeah
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@boob @RehnSturm256 @meowski @moth @p i have sloth thigh highs but i have only had a single sock of the pair for like ten years
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@moth @RehnSturm256 @boob @meowski @p it would only be any fun if you messed with her though. or like if she chafed at being told what to do. that might be cute.
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@boob @moth @RehnSturm256 @meowski @p there is and there isn't. some feminists think power shit in gay relationships is entirely an emulation of toxic straight relationships. some lesbians say they're totally unrelated and how dare you conflate them you bigot. it's the same with the hackneyed conversation about whether butches emulate men.
what i think is that while unequal power dynamics themselves are rooted in sexual dimorphism when two people of the same sex emulate these power differentials it can be very different from the literal physical power discrepancy as exists between males and females.
but every relationship is different blobcatgooglyshrug
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@p @RehnSturm256 @boob @meowski @moth it's just teasing, an essential component of flirting
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@p @RehnSturm256 @meowski @moth @nerthos sorry you've lost me in idioms
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@p @moth @RehnSturm256 @boob @meowski i don't want to be told what to do but i think it could be cute to tease a girl, sorry what's the discrepancy?
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@boob @RehnSturm256 @meowski @moth @p only in affect, not position
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@boob @RehnSturm256 @meowski @moth @nerthos @p are you saying that flirting with a woman whose name i don't know who may or may not have a penis isn't going to get me laid
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@boob @RehnSturm256 @meowski @moth @p just because i'm the bottom in your dreams doesn't mean i'm not the top in mine. i'm borderline stone actually. i only want my tiddies touched, nothing below the waist.
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@boob @RehnSturm256 @meowski @moth @p i vocalize myself all the time. the only time i didn't was when i was on acid. i just have social anxiety.
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@boob @RehnSturm256 @meowski @moth @p i don't have social anxiety when i'm with people i know well. it's only in public for strangers. you just made me uncomfortable sometimes cause you kept staring at me and making me self conscious.
sorry bud you really don't know me well on this one. i'm not shy and reserved in personal relationships. in fact my coworker has told me that i'm too direct and blunt and need to be couth, or something.
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@boob @RehnSturm256 @meowski @moth @p i hate when people use couth as a backformation of uncouth, it's barbaric.
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@boob @moth @RehnSturm256 @meowski @p stop prognosticating about what position i'll take i haven't even had my first kiss
i do however like being the big spoon ^^
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@moth @RehnSturm256 @boob @meowski @p i like smelling womens hair
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@moth @boob @RehnSturm256 @meowski @p i think pete has a landing strip
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@p @RehnSturm256 @boob @meowski @moth i want to have a relationship before i have sex, and i don't think that's a radical desire
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@boob @RehnSturm256 @meowski @moth @p that's absolutely retarded. having sex with some stranger in a bar you just met is not the norm. are you joking or do you really have such a messed up perception of relationships? this generation is LESS promiscuous than preceding ones.
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@boob @RehnSturm256 @meowski @moth @p i said i want to be IN A RELATIONSHIP FIRST. not that i want to be married.
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@p @RehnSturm256 @boob @meowski @moth hmmmm that could work as long as she's not a smoker
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@p @Frankie @RehnSturm256 @boob @meowski @moth normies are wack. having to try to not lose your virginity. that's so crazy to me.
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@p @RehnSturm256 @boob @meowski @moth oh thanks for this gilded nugget of courtship arcana
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@boob @p @RehnSturm256 @meowski @moth the real magic was cancer all along
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@p @boob @Frankie @RehnSturm256 @meowski @moth i don't care about cleanliness i'm just afraid of putting myself out there and getting rejected
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@boob @RehnSturm256 @meowski @moth @p don't joke around about this cause i WILL talk about the two hit hypothesis of oncogenesis
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@p @RehnSturm256 @boob @meowski @moth what the fuck is with these stupid mating rituals and rules. why can't people just be like "you're cute i want to know more about you"
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@boob @RehnSturm256 @meowski @moth @p damage is progressive and becomes more likely with senescence as cell damage accrues. dna can handle a certain amount of fuckery and cells destroy themselves but once enough things go wrong (the two hit hypothesis is usually employed to explain the role of germline oncogenes but also applies to somatic mutations) you're fucked.
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@boob @RehnSturm256 @meowski @moth @p my original response was longer but fuck that
don't smoke dumbass
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@nik @RehnSturm256 @boob @meowski @moth @p i mean unless you count when i was nine and got kissed by a friend at a sleepover but like that wasn't consensual
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@meowski @RehnSturm256 @boob @moth @p it's called a hypothesis though. and evolution is called a theory. deal with it.
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@Lumeinshin @RehnSturm256 @boob @meowski @moth @p aren't you the one who said drugs are bad
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@meowski @RehnSturm256 @boob @moth @p yeah that's more like my original reply xP
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@meowski @RehnSturm256 @boob @moth @nik @p when are you going to stop mansplaining things i already know.
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@boob @RehnSturm256 @meowski @moth @nik @p smoking is gross and women don't like it
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@nik @RehnSturm256 @boob @meowski @moth @p ah, yes. but he likes living in nanny red states where the ganja is verboten.
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@meowski @boob @RehnSturm256 @moth @nik @p didn't you say you used to smoke?
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@leyonhjelm @RehnSturm256 @boob @meowski @moth @p political lesbians disgust me. like you really want to make someone suffer unrequited love for your political purity? fuck that shit
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@nik @RehnSturm256 @boob @meowski @moth @p he got weed off empire which got shut down by the three letter guys. maybe i shouldn't be divulging all this.
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@nik @boob @RehnSturm256 @meowski @moth @p they increased the age to 21, nice
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@boob @RehnSturm256 @meowski @moth @nik @p i told you to buy weed when you were in town, did you?
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@boob @RehnSturm256 @meowski @moth @nik @p oh right. the governor did that and people were whining.
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@moth @leyonhjelm @meowski @nerthos isn't language deliciously ambiguous
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@boob @moth @RehnSturm256 @meowski @nik @p listerine in particular, yeah lol
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@Prodigal @leyonhjelm @meowski @moth @nerthos don't use breast milk for degenerate purposes it's for drinking only
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@p @RehnSturm256 @boob @meowski @moth @nik
wow p you've had bad takes but this is your worst.
the reason we let kids vote is cause we were sending them to their deaths in nam. the voting age was 21 quite recently.
driving? honestly i do think the age should be increased a little. kids are at a really high risk of accidents and driving isn't quite the right of passage it used to be anyway.

but driving is to take you from one place to another. and voting is exercising a basic liberty. automobiles and the vote have important societal functions.

but their cigarettes? there is literally nothing good about cigarettes. they are a net detriment on the health and wealth of the self and the nation and exist purely for "fun".
fewer people smoking is a good thing. fewer kids smoking is an excellent thing.
frankly it's stupid and only a result of temperance bullshit combined with big tobacco that for generations kids could smoke before they could drink.

it's more than danger too. nicotine is a highly addictive substance, moreso than most recreational drugs, yet we criminalize them.
kids and their smooth prefrontal cortexes can make a "choice" to try nicotine. sure.
but it soon ceases to become a free choice.
the sooner nicotine smoking is relegated to the annals of history, the better.
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@p @boob @RehnSturm256 @meowski @moth @nik tea is precious that's sacrilege
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@p @RehnSturm256 @boob @meowski @moth @nik are you saying kids shouldn't be saddled with debt? very libleft, i approve.

pot isn't nearly as addictive as nicotine. and anyway the age for pot is 21. and the age for alcohol is 21. so yeah it's retarded that the age for nicotine is lower.

fewer. kids. smoking. is. a. good. thing.
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@p @RehnSturm256 @boob @meowski @moth @nik p, your use of phrases like "keep up" and your strawmanning makes me think i've gotten you all frustrated.

there's no inconsistency. i do oppose saddling kids with debt, but this post isn't about that.

i never said pot isn't addictive. i said nicotine is far more addictive. keep up.

and i never said cigarettes should be banned i said the age should be increased to 21, which you appear to oppose.
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@p @RehnSturm256 @boob @meowski @moth @nik you're oversimplifying. it's not a matter of "do you trust them at this age?" driving and smoking are different and i explained why.
i also never said i think the drinking age should be 21, in fact i called it puritanical.
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@p @RehnSturm256 @boob @meowski @moth @nik
how is it useful for teenagers to smoke? please elucidate.
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@p @RehnSturm256 @boob @meowski @moth @nik across the board age restrictions that don't consider effect are plain lazy but what age, in your estimation, is the one at which teenagers (18 year olds are teenagers that's just a statement of fact) should be permitted to buy tobacco?
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@boob @leyonhjelm @Prodigal @meowski @moth @nerthos i wasn't breastfed and i like titties
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@a7 @RehnSturm256 @boob @meowski @moth @nik @p humans don't exist in a vacuum. society pays for cigarette smoking big time.
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@p @a7 @RehnSturm256 @boob @meowski @moth @nik i'm glad you find fallacious argumentation amusing
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@a7 @RehnSturm256 @boob @meowski @moth @nik @p you'd have a perfectly valid point were smoking not highly addictive. most smokers don't want to kill themselves slowly, they plan on quitting at some point. the tobacco industry is highly exploitative. western countries have gotten wise to it so they exported sales to the third world. it's really one of the great indictments of capitalism.
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@a7 @colonelj @RehnSturm256 @boob @meowski @moth @nik @p i think colonelj is instance blocked and its based
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@a7 @colonelj @RehnSturm256 @boob @meowski @moth @nik @p i'm shocked that you take such a laise faire attitude while thinking abortion should be illegal in all cases
it's hypocrisy.
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@a7 @RehnSturm256 @boob @meowski @moth @nik @p restrictions on cigarettes save lives.
without predatory capitalism there is no tobacco industry.
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@a7 @RehnSturm256 @boob @colonelj @meowski @moth @nik @p i'm not advocating for cigarette smokers to be prosecuted i'm arguing for sales to people under 21 to be banned
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@a7 @RehnSturm256 @boob @colonelj @meowski @moth @nik @p bad analogy. meat isn't a highly addictive carcinogen. also there's evidence that veganism can be detrimental to health.
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@a7 @RehnSturm256 @boob @colonelj @meowski @moth @nik @p your analogies are getting more and more far fetched to the point of farce. both you and p do this.
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@a7 @RehnSturm256 @boob @colonelj @meowski @moth @nik @p some additives to red meat are possibly carcinogenic. but that's just an indictment on modern food processing
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@a7 @RehnSturm256 @boob @colonelj @meowski @moth @nik @p my opposition to nicotine is rooted in a zeal for life and freedom.
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@a7 @RehnSturm256 @boob @colonelj @meowski @moth @nik @p unilateralism in such matters isn't wise or principled. it's obstinacy. everything is a cost benefit analysis.
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@RehnSturm256 @VD15 @a7 @boob @colonelj @meowski @moth @nik @p
i was talking about wrapping him in bubblewrap you perv
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@VD15 @RehnSturm256 @a7 @boob @colonelj @meowski @moth @nik @p i'm out of breastmilk after last night
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@knotteye @RehnSturm256 @a7 @boob @colonelj @meowski @moth @nik @p oh i'm not denying it's somewhat arbitrary but such is the nature of chronological restrictions. a restriction ought to exist here, and it will always be annoying for the people a little below it. 21 is a good age though imo. i feel like i entered my current epoch of selfness when i was 21.
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@p @RehnSturm256 @boob @meowski @moth @nik it's not as simple as what they want to do with their body. the first few cigarettes are, but it's a highly addictive substance. almost no one wants to get addicted. the addiction factor is something you ignore entirely. it strips people of will, it doesn't enhance freedom.
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@mystik @p @RehnSturm256 @a7 @boob @meowski @moth @nik states that don't sentence people to die because they are poor.
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@mystik @RehnSturm256 @a7 @boob @meowski @moth @nik @p they aren't choosing to die. if you ask them almost all want to live.
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@p @RehnSturm256 @a7 @boob @colonelj @meowski @moth @nik i don't think abortion should be legal in all cases, i think there should be a chronological cut off. likewise with cigarettes.
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@Moon @p @RehnSturm256 @a7 @boob @meowski @moth @nik my view on cigarettes is indelibly molded by memories of being an asthmatic child being made to sputter and wheeze around americans exercising their "right"
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@knotteye @RehnSturm256 @boob @meowski @moth @nik @p my grandma has said it was the most difficult thing in her life, worse than when her husband died
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@p @RehnSturm256 @a7 @boob @meowski @moth @nik tobacco chewing was popular here but the modern cigarette is an industrial novelty. the american tobacco industry is an abomination which has literally sued countries to keep selling them poison.
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@p @RehnSturm256 @a7 @boob @colonelj @meowski @moth @nik if you're enslaved to a chemical that kills you you aren't free
freedom to be unfree isn't a thing
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@verita84 @RehnSturm256 @a7 @boob @colonelj @meowski @moth @nik @p
freedom to be unfree is incidentally why i prefer copyleft
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@verita84 @RehnSturm256 @a7 @boob @colonelj @meowski @moth @nik @p depends on your definition of freedom. permissive licenses are nice if you want to make proprietary software from free software.
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@net @verita84 @RehnSturm256 @a7 @boob @colonelj @meowski @moth @nik @p not the same license but a compatible license
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@shit @RehnSturm256 @a7 @boob @colonelj @meowski @moth @nik @p @verita84 being forced to reveal your source is tyranny, right
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@p @RehnSturm256 @boob @meowski @moth @nik there are lots of things i don't like. very few of them have such impressive death tolls.
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@shit @RehnSturm256 @a7 @boob @colonelj @meowski @moth @nik @p @verita84 you're not forced and you can do whatever you want personally. you just can't repackage and redistribute software with copyleft components as proprietary software. that's awesome.
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@shit @RehnSturm256 @a7 @boob @colonelj @meowski @moth @nik @p @verita84 literally what's wrong with saying you used this thing freely, so now let others use it freely
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@p @Moon @RehnSturm256 @a7 @boob @meowski @moth @nik stores tracking your phones and data used without informed consent shouldn't be a thing
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@p @Moon @RehnSturm256 @a7 @boob @meowski @moth @nik i'm not compelling anyone except vendors man. it's ridiculous that there's a national age of 21 for alcohol while the tobacco is 17 in many places
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@p @Moon @RehnSturm256 @a7 @boob @meowski @moth @nik and those things don't kill you either.
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@p @RehnSturm256 @a7 @boob @meowski @moth @nik if you're going to frame it in such a way than why have any age restriction at all
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@p @Moon @RehnSturm256 @a7 @boob @meowski @moth @nik the smoking age should be tied to the drinking age imo.
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@p @RehnSturm256 @a7 @boob @meowski @moth @nik why is the age of majority when people become competent adults? we both agree that kids shouldn't be sold cigarettes. i agree that personal liberty is important when it comes to even insalubrious vices that don't harm others. (public smoking actually does). i just think smoking is dangerous and addictive enough that it's not unreasonable to err towards restriction.
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@p @boob @Moon @RehnSturm256 @a7 @meowski @moth @nik
ignore him he's still butthurt about me trouncing him in our last debate
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@meowski @p @RehnSturm256 @a7 @boob @moth @nik same. i think many drugs should be legalized and possession should never be a crime but some drugs come at a huge cost society and the individual regardless of initial "choice"
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@a7 @RehnSturm256 @boob @meowski @moth @nik @p possession of any substance except like sarin shouldn't be a crime
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@meowski @a7 @RehnSturm256 @boob @moth @nik @p 4 days doesn't seem like a lot of time
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@a7 @RehnSturm256 @boob @meowski @moth @nik @p i know you can survive much longer without food but i thought water was a bit longer. although i've heard a few days before so maybe not.
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@moth @meowski @RehnSturm256 @a7 @boob @nik @p i want bread pudding but someone ate all of it
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@a7 @RehnSturm256 @boob @meowski @moth @nik @p why do people send me videos i never watch them unless i know they'll have cats
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@a7 @RehnSturm256 @boob @meowski @moth @nik @p you tricked me i didn't see the dog
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@p @meowski @RehnSturm256 @a7 @boob @georgia @moth @nik georgia wtf I knew you work for the government but this is next level shit
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@methyltheobromine @p @RehnSturm256 @a7 @boob @meowski @moth @nik lol i didn't say that.
it's great because it's stupid that marijuana and alcohol are 21 and less people smoking at a young age is a good thing. p is acting like waiting a couple years is some great injustice. there's nothing magical about the age of majority and it's not wise to
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@RehnSturm256 @a7 @boob @meowski @methyltheobromine @moth @nik @p it's not wise to disregard nuance and say "this is the age at which everything happens".
p isn't discussing children because he believes they have the right to smoke too.
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@georgia @RehnSturm256 @a7 @boob @meowski @moth @nik @p in 2007 the age for smoking over here was raised from 16 to 18.
So now kids need to trick vending machines or buy cigarettes from 18 year olds. Which is not a barrier to prevent them from smoking lol
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@methyltheobromine @RehnSturm256 @a7 @boob @meowski @moth @nik @p based kids lol
honestly it would be cool to me if we did 18 if we used that australian scare packaging
i just hate the idea of another generation getting hooked on that shit, it's not good for society as a whole
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@georgia @RehnSturm256 @a7 @boob @meowski @moth @nik @p scary packing like this?
tbh it didn't scare anyone except some non eu tourists. people know it's deadly, they just don't care.
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@methyltheobromine @RehnSturm256 @a7 @boob @meowski @moth @nik @p yummy
we don't have those unfortunately the companies say it's compelled speech
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@georgia @RehnSturm256 @a7 @boob @meowski @moth @nik @p they could use it for marketing: you can collect the pictures and there's super rare ones for some reason and then there's a generic card game and the rare cards win. this has worked multiple times, it's a bullet proof money maker.
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@methyltheobromine @RehnSturm256 @a7 @boob @meowski @moth @nik @p that's amazing i want to collect ailments
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@moth @RehnSturm256 @a7 @boob @meowski @methyltheobromine @nik @p to me slightly increasing the age you can buy cigarettes could mitigate a lot of suffering at little cost. sometimes you have to think of societal good. i just don't consider buying particular substances at a young age to be a "liberty" .
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@a7 @RehnSturm256 @boob @meowski @methyltheobromine @moth @nik @p should the driving age be increased to 18 too? you guys are such black and white thinkers. inalienable rights are one matter but stuff like engaging in specific dangerous activities can be considered individually from a risk/reward approach
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@meowski @RehnSturm256 @a7 @boob @methyltheobromine @moth @nik @p yeah i entirely agree. all "smokers rights" groups are an astroturf
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@meowski @a7 @RehnSturm256 @boob @methyltheobromine @moth @nik @p especially around infants, it's very harmful to lung development
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@a7 @RehnSturm256 @boob @meowski @methyltheobromine @moth @nik @p freedom of movement isn't a right but smoking is
wtf is this
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@meowski @a7 @RehnSturm256 @boob @georgia @moth @nik @p smoking is one of the most expensive ways to die
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@boob @meowski @RehnSturm256 @a7 @georgia @moth @nik @p hot take: stupid people should be able to die due to stupidity
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@a7 @RehnSturm256 @boob @meowski @methyltheobromine @moth @nik @p it's mostly based on drinking and pot being 21
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