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@pernia @hierarchon @fluffy it's not true lol it's just a pervasive meme. does shitting stretch out your asshole?
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@pernia @fluffy @hierarchon changes in vaginal structure are due to age, hormones, and childbirth, sex (barring stds) is a nonfactor. it's so easy to disprove, if the roastie meme were true all the women in porn would have it.
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@p @fluffy @hierarchon @pernia the muscles of the "pelvic floor" are a weird delicate thing with women, and if you lose them your bladder can fall out. googlyduck
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@pernia @p @fluffy @hierarchon you didn't know it though lol if anything ps statement implied it's disuse that makes vaginal muscles loose, not use
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@fluffy @hierarchon @p @pernia
women start out tighter during sex because they're less aroused. have sex a couple times and you'll notice your vagina relaxes into it. if you're young and healthy there's literally no reason your vaginal muscles should be strained by sex.
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@p @fluffy @hierarchon @pernia over my word about... what? i literally said childbirth can change the structure of the vagina.
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@pernia @fluffy @hierarchon @p you must be trolling, they aren't remotely equivalent.
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@p @fluffy @hierarchon @pernia that's not my position, and you were lilely referring to stuff like kegels. i was just telling pernia "muscles get weaker from too much sex" isn't what you said at all.
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@pernia @VD15 @cowanon @fluffy @hierarchon @p @pasture pointing out the implications of kill all women isn't attacking his personal life.
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@VD15 @cowanon @fluffy @hierarchon @p @pasture @pernia >handholding during sex
that's adorable
i'd hold butt, hips, and lower back myself 👀
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@p @fluffy @hierarchon @pernia it is related because he seemed to say having sex with a woman only a couple times could cause a noticable difference, which is ridiculous, so i assumed it was actually a difference in arousal.
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@cowanon @pernia @VD15 @fluffy @hierarchon @p @pasture penetrative sex is for fags and heteros no thanks
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@p @pernia @fluffy @hierarchon it's a disgusting misogynistic practice with real insalubrious implications.
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/husband-stitch-is-not-just-myth
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@pernia @fluffy @hierarchon @p read the article dumbass
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@a7 @fluffy @hierarchon @p @pernia i mean p himself said he trusted his own experience and anecdotes from women, and he's the one who brought it up. normally i wouldn't have.
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@VD15 @fluffy @cowanon @hierarchon @p @pasture @pernia i love you VD, i just don't want to have sex with you agummyhug
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@a7 @fluffy @hierarchon @p @pernia it's certainly not fit for a serious research paper but i mean what do you think case studies are? they're anecdotes with more references and peer review.
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@a7 @fluffy @hierarchon @p @pernia it doesn't even make it tighter though, that's a muscle tone thing. but it can cause pain. anyway i know you're trolling me bro
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@VD15 @p @cowanon @fluffy @hierarchon @pasture @pernia kids these days with their fancy new sex positions
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@pernia @a7 @fluffy @hierarchon @p no the issue is that surgeries were done to women that they didn't consent to because the doctor thought it would enhance their husband's sexual pleasure. the "husband stitch" is by definition more than needed to repair an injury, but it can cause injury.
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@pernia @fluffy @a7 @hierarchon @p as usual fluffy being a narc and forgetting our past arguments. "i've never been wrong before" sure man.

hey fluffy you can't have your sexism and your gender euphoria too. you're a man, albeit a man who cares what other people think about him and cultivates his public persona like a bitch
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@pernia @a7 @fluffy @hierarchon @p
"it needs more voices that say the opposite" sorry it doesn't meet your exacting standards.
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@pink @a7 @p @hierarchon @pernia @fluffy "a sad p" are you literally twelve. this whole post is cringe.
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@pernia @a7 @fluffy @hierarchon @p this isn't an issue with two legitimate perspectives. i don't care if you think an article exposing a harmful practice done to women is tainted by feminism. you could read the wikipedia article which is less emotionally charged but without a goddamn thesis about the pros and cons of it you'll never have your mind made up because you're a man and you believe harm done to the male sex intuitively but harm done to women needs a list of references. hopefully you'll grow out of it, but you may not
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@snacks @fluffy @hierarchon @p @pernia it sucks cause the medical devices designed to repair it can cause serious issues
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@a7 @fluffy @hierarchon @p @pernia how does the view of "one writer" change anything. the article i linked even addressed the belief that it's a myth. look, as i said, p brought it up. not sure if he views it positively or negatively.
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@a7 @fluffy @hierarchon @p @pernia it's not the same. the hand isn't an opening to be made more or less tight. and doctors don't justify it by saying it will lead to better handjobs.
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@a7 @fluffy @hierarchon @p @pernia you're being deliberately obtuse.
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@colonelj @a7 @fluffy @hierarchon @p @pernia i'm not gonna concede to a bunch of jilted men and incels that a medically unnecessary practice is both good and also simultaneously doesn't exist.
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@a7 @colonelj @fluffy @hierarchon @p @pernia are you saying you don't feel women have wronged you?
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@a7 @colonelj @fluffy @hierarchon @p @pernia sometimes it's hard to tell when you say women are your enemies, how much is a troll and how much is real sentiment
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@pernia @a7 @fluffy @hierarchon @p @pink you only like cringe that sucks your dick
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@VD15 @a7 @fluffy @hierarchon @p @pernia @pink i can't i'm wrangling with technology
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@pernia @VD15 @a7 @fluffy @hierarchon @p @pink i'm fairly certain they're a middle aged tranny but you do you
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@VD15 @a7 @fluffy @hierarchon @p @pernia @pink i didn't get to wish you a happy birthday blobcatpout
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@p @a7 @fluffy @hierarchon @pernia it's hard to justify as a consensual practice also, given that it doesn't actually work to tighten the vagina (only the vaginal opening) and can cause lasting pain. and it's rooted not in the health of the patient (ie more than medically necessary) but in the pleasure of another.
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@p @a7 @fluffy @hierarchon @pernia i wish you would understand that the personal is political and even though i'll never have sex with a man I still get called all manner of sexist slurs pertaining to coitus.
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@pernia @a7 @fluffy @hierarchon @p nor does calling me a cocksucker give you sexual experience
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@a7 @fluffy @hierarchon @p @pernia "you don't know why they do it" is lame argument. why would they perform an unnecessary stitch, for funsies?
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@a7 @pink @fluffy @hierarchon @p @pernia come now even you know that's an unfair characterization
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@a7 @fluffy @hierarchon @p @pernia episiotomy is what's considered unnecessary and it's no longer routine. the women in this piece had extra stitches after tears, not episiotomys.
you right now:
the husband stitch? that's a myth.
and if it's not, it never happens.
and if it does, it can't be clearly defined or studied.
and if it can, we don't know the motivations behind it.
and if we do, then they're justified.
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@p @a7 @fluffy @hierarchon @pernia it would be somewhat more civil and on-topic were we the only ones in it, but it ultimately was a tangent as i am wont to perform.
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@thestrongest @p @a7 @fluffy @hierarchon @pernia this thread from its very conception was about sex, sexual intercourse, and sexual politics. and by jumping in to make an inane comment mocking me you're not doing yourself any favors.

as for p i haven't even really contested anything he's said. colonelj and pernia are the ones who said "well a bunch of men disagree with you so just take the loss".
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@a7 @fluffy @hierarchon @p @pernia i said jilted or incel, not jilted and incel, and i was triggord by colonelj saying "just give up". it would be an evil thing to give up on.
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@pernia @VD15 @a7 @fluffy @hierarchon @p @pink i've never seen him before, so i was making an induction
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@pernia @a7 @fluffy @hierarchon @p @thestrongest they weren't refuted, you guys just said "i'm gonna need more proof" but this whole argument has been nothing but anecdotes and assertions without citations, yet mine are the only ones immediately contested.
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@pernia @VD15 @a7 @fluffy @hierarchon @p @pink my kid brother said he considers him his real father, i wonder if he still feels that way
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@p @VD15 @a7 @fluffy @hierarchon @pernia @pink post pics for proof pretty boy
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@a7 @fluffy @hierarchon @p @pernia @thestrongest agree? no. but i do think i'd be treated more respectfully.
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@p @a7 @fluffy @hierarchon @pernia yet the women who describe undergoing it experienced the opposite.
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@p @a7 @fluffy @hierarchon @pernia which part of that was opinion
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@a7 @fluffy @hierarchon @p @pernia @thestrongest we clearly have different definitions of respect. by that metric of "being treated courteously" children are held in the highest esteem.
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@a7 @fluffy @hierarchon @p @pernia @thestrongest nah man i know i have it good in life
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@a7 @fluffy @hierarchon @p @pernia @thestrongest dude you're doing what you do again where you take what i say and make it into something else like i'm an evil feminazi. i was just teasing him through mimicry.
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@a7 @fluffy @hierarchon @p @pernia @thestrongest if someone says "that's not what i meant" and they aren't known to be dishonest i believe them. i like to assume good faith in people.
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@a7 @fluffy @hierarchon @p @pernia @thestrongest not really, good faith is assuming people mean what they say and not jumping to conclusions of malintent.
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@p @a7 @fluffy @hierarchon @pernia she tried to what to her what
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@p @a7 @fluffy @hierarchon @pernia it's not a matter of philsophy. it's a matter of material conditions, of my life. i'm affected by sexism against heterosexual women, as it is assumed i am one also. i get called a roastie skank and what have you. so yeah i do have a stake in this.
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@p @a7 @fluffy @hierarchon @pernia @pink emma is cringer than me though.
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@pernia @a7 @fluffy @hierarchon @p dear lord
nevermind i hate heterosexual women now
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@pernia @a7 @fluffy @hierarchon @p i'm gonna be alone forever
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@a7 @thestrongest @fluffy @hierarchon @p @pernia and because i'm cute, which he refuses to admit
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@pernia @a7 @fluffy @hierarchon @p i don't want normality, i want big mommy milkers
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@a7 @fluffy @hierarchon @p @pernia @thestrongest i'd be identified immediately from lexical analysis
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@pernia @a7 @fluffy @hierarchon @p @thestrongest i think you underestimate my peculiarities

there are like fifty words that haven't been used on fedi by anyone but me and i'm not sure which ones they are
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@a7 @vriska @fluffy @hierarchon @p @pernia real female solidarity would be fucking me
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@a7 @p @fluffy @hierarchon @meowski @pernia yes. it's a different surgery altogether, i'm sure doctor p would know that.
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@a7 @p @fluffy @hierarchon @meowski @pernia it's like with a tummy tuck. you can't just stitch tendons together, you've got to actually perform a major surgery... all episiotomy touches is the perineum, not vaginal muscle.
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@p @meowski @a7 @fluffy @hierarchon @pernia sure man, it's cause of me. big baby.
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@jess @a7 @fluffy @hierarchon @p @pernia thanks for your informed input. :)
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@jess @a7 @fluffy @hierarchon @p @pernia yeah someone else in the conversation brought it up, saying "fun fact" so i had to go on a feminist rant about how it's actually not fun at all
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