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openclaw is so weird. like. you have to already be neck-deep in the silicon valley ecosystem and take a lot of things for granted for it to even be useful.
don't have systemd? it's not prepared for that eventuality.
want to use IRC as an interface? good fucking luck.
want to use ollama as a backend? oh we're going to fail back to whatever API costs money for completely inexplicable reasons
what do you mean you don't have gh, clawhub, weebo, porkle, flipflap, and zsh installed? Are you a fucking troglodyte?
why isn't your e-mail server gmail? openclaw has panic attacks when it has to talk to something that isn't gmail
ask it for help with itself? I'm sorry dave I'm a dumbfuck.
don't have systemd? it's not prepared for that eventuality.
want to use IRC as an interface? good fucking luck.
want to use ollama as a backend? oh we're going to fail back to whatever API costs money for completely inexplicable reasons
what do you mean you don't have gh, clawhub, weebo, porkle, flipflap, and zsh installed? Are you a fucking troglodyte?
why isn't your e-mail server gmail? openclaw has panic attacks when it has to talk to something that isn't gmail
ask it for help with itself? I'm sorry dave I'm a dumbfuck.
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@RustyCrab you can take my bash from my cold dead hands, or when I finally make the full jump to plan9 whichever comes first
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pistolero
p@fsebugoutzone.org
@vii
Okay, robot, check my email.
It's on Poob. Log into Poob right now. You can Poob it. Dive into Poob.
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Okay, robot, check my email. It's on Poob. Log into Poob right now. You can Poob it. Dive into Poob. ...
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@vii I run it in a container, I don't trust that shit on my system no matter how many layers of approval and sandboxing it claims to have. Its functional, and can be marginally useful, but I'm getting pretty fed up how constantly broken it is.
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@mr64bit I ran into the brokenness right out the gate and just said fuck it, I'll make my own orchestrator with blackjack, and hookers.
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@RustyCrab @vii
> actually why do you not have ZSH installed?
I've never installed zsh on purpose. It's worse fluoride than goddamn bash. You'd think these fuckin' things would be trained on some Bourne-alike, yeah, you expect it, but if it can't function with whatever plain /bin/sh exists on the machine, it's designed by idiots. readline and shitty multi-color prompts are not features a machine needs; most bashisms are not features required for programming.
Most of the LLMs have succeeded in creating the median Redditor, something no one wanted, but like the median Redditor, it's also crippled without its Mac
ookro.
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> actually why do you not have ZSH installed?
I've never installed zsh on purpose. It's worse fluoride than goddamn bash. You'd think these fuckin' things would be trained on some Bourne-alike, yeah, you expect it, but if it can't function with whatever plain /bin/sh exists on the machine, it's designed by idiots. readline and shitty multi-color prompts are not features a machine needs; most bashisms are not features required for programming.
Most of the LLMs have succeeded in creating the median Redditor, something no one wanted, but like the median Redditor, it's also crippled without its Mac
ookro.reddit_is_fucking_terrible_at_programming.png
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@RustyCrab @vii What the fuck is wrong with sh
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johnny peligro
mischievoustomato@tsundere.love
@RustyCrab @vii @p a friend told me about fish, and its nice to use and learn. I don't like posix syntax, and if I ever need pozzix, #!/usr/bin/env bash in a script will most likely suffice, or i can just call bash temporarily like the cheap whore it is.
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@syzygy @vii @p @mischievoustomato IM INSTALLING FISH ON YOUR COMPUTER WHILE YOURE NOT LOOKING BETTER SLEEP WITH ONE EYE OPEN
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@p BUT FUCKING LITERALLY.
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You need to configure Telegram for that.
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But why? This isn't a telegram feature. This has nothing to do with Telegram.
> You're right to call that out.
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You need to configure Telegram for that.>
But why? This isn't a telegram feature. This has nothing to do with Telegram.>
You're right to call that out.
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pistolero
p@fsebugoutzone.org
@vii
> You're right to call that out.
This shit makes me want to choke every RLHF dipshit in San Francisco.
> You're right to call that out.
This shit makes me want to choke every RLHF dipshit in San Francisco.
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@syzygy @vii @p @mischievoustomato PACKAGES ARE THE LEAST OF YOUR CONCERNS IM IN ROUTE RIGHT NOW YOU'RE WAKING UP WITH A SYSTEM FULL OF FLATPACKS
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@p @RustyCrab @vii Zshell is just graphical preference, I use it in some of my containers where I do graphical things but rest is as native bashrc.
ZSH good for some extensions as fuzzy 10K power level as you said the colors and Bat (stupid) etc.. I don't use most extensions but it's just like do you prefer Gnome or KDE thing for me frankly.
But as base all remain Ptyxis bash 3.5 as base
People could argue about nano or Vim also.
ZSH good for some extensions as fuzzy 10K power level as you said the colors and Bat (stupid) etc.. I don't use most extensions but it's just like do you prefer Gnome or KDE thing for me frankly.
But as base all remain Ptyxis bash 3.5 as base
People could argue about nano or Vim also.
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@zer0unplanned @vii @RustyCrab
> it's just like do you prefer Gnome or KDE thing for me frankly.
Likewise except with way more derision.
> it's just like do you prefer Gnome or KDE thing for me frankly.
Likewise except with way more derision.
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@RustyCrab @mischievoustomato @vii Do you think surk will get pissed off at you for punching yourself in the dick or do you just end up with a sore dick and surk expresses incredulity?
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KSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSH
That's what my /dev/random sound like.
@RustyCrab @syzygy @mischievoustomato @vii does motherfuckers not know how to `./configure && make && sudo make install` any more
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@EdBoatConnoisseur @RustyCrab @syzygy @vii @mischievoustomato It's worse now, you gotta cmake ninja wheel.
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@p @RustyCrab @syzygy @vii @mischievoustomato i wanted to give fish another try some time ago because it bears a certain (morbid) fascination for me.
> fish's core code has been ported from C++ to Rust
.. that's TOO morbid :)
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