we got jews,
You mean the ones who support Israel, the country currently having “right to rape” protests?
pedophiles,
Self-explanatory
virtue signalling grifters
Not like this community isn’t infamous for sexual assault and other depravity
@georgia@netzsphaere.xyz @7666@comp.lain.la I think I've made it pretty clear I am specifically talking about zionists, not all Jews and zionists deserve zero grace
you can’t just say something blatantly antisemitic and say “oh I mean Zionists not Jews”
I didn’t say that though, I specifically said the ones who support Israel and I’m sorry, but supporting a genocidal apartheid rogue state is inexcusable. You don’t get to cry victim when people criticize you for supporting mass murder, torture, and rape.
@georgia@netzsphaere.xyz @7666@comp.lain.la “Jews who support Israel”. Don’t put words in my mouth
@georgia@netzsphaere.xyz @7666@comp.lain.la I think supporting a genocidal apartheid state that engages in systemic rape and torture is a bigger problem. I consider these people the same as german nazis who "didn't know about the death camps" (except today it's far to see the evidence of what Israel does than it was for people to see what Germany was doing). It's not antisemitism to point out what these people are doing, you're starting to sound like Greenblatt.
@sun@shitposter.world @georgia@netzsphaere.xyz @7666@comp.lain.la it's not if their reason is Israel since Republicans are even more openly pro-Israel than the dems.
@7666@comp.lain.la @sun@shitposter.world @georgia@netzsphaere.xyz because the party is doing other things they like, such as the whole mass deportation and police state stuff
@georgia@netzsphaere.xyz @7666@comp.lain.la I said thats why those groups support Republicans. If you can point me to a prominent Republican Jew who isn't a rabid Israel supporter I'd love to see it.
@7666@comp.lain.la @georgia@netzsphaere.xyz @sun@shitposter.world the hard-right zionist position is completely compatible with a lot of the white nationalist groups since they both want geographically separate ethnostates
@7666@comp.lain.la @georgia@netzsphaere.xyz @sun@shitposter.world don't forget there were pro-hitler zionists back in the day for the same reason
@georgia@netzsphaere.xyz @7666@comp.lain.la haven't moved the goalposts at all you're just repeatedly twisting my words again.
Also sorry, but if you are a Republican (of any ethnicity or religion) in 2025 you are pro-child rape. You can protest otherwise, but that just makes you a liar.
@sun@shitposter.world @7666@comp.lain.la @georgia@netzsphaere.xyz THIS IS NOT NEW look up lehi and probably several other groups I'm forgetting the name of
@georgia@netzsphaere.xyz @7666@comp.lain.la Let me spell it out for you again:
Supporting Trump = supporting child torture and rape
Supporting Israel = supporting child torture and rape
"that's the same picture" as in they support the same thing and that is why they are allied
@georgia@netzsphaere.xyz @7666@comp.lain.la I'm not wrong, you just don't want to admit it. Many of these people lie about their position, to others, to themselves, but that doesn't change the material reality
@georgia@netzsphaere.xyz @7666@comp.lain.la I know what people DO, which is support a bunch of child rapists. When it comes to rape and torture, I don't really care what your justification for it is
@sun@shitposter.world @7666@comp.lain.la @georgia@netzsphaere.xyz tbh I don't really care which it is
@georgia@netzsphaere.xyz @patchuun@social.xenofem.me @7666@comp.lain.la if it were truly proved (moreso than it already is) most of them would claim he was framed by the deep state and support him even more fervently
@georgia@netzsphaere.xyz @7666@comp.lain.la @patchuun@social.xenofem.me but you do believe i am lmfao
@georgia@netzsphaere.xyz @7666@comp.lain.la @patchuun@social.xenofem.me dont remember that conversation tbh
@patchuun @7666 @anemone @georgia azalea doesnt really beleive in “washing hands” of something being a thing or the idea that something bad can make someone “unclean”
it thinks they should* eventually go “oh that was kinda stupid”, if they dont then theyre hiding from something thats true, but other than that it doesnt really matter (other than if they keep hiding from it for the rest of their lives and cant acknowledge the entirety of the world)
its kinda interesting because its maybe somewhat similar to what you believe
but azalea feels like putting it this way is useful, especially when most people are used to/expect the idea of “have to be Pure otherwise u Die”
@patchuun @7666 @anemone @georgia
like imagine like, an anime plot or something where someone gets mind controlled to see all their allies as monsters, and fights them
saying “theyre morally culpable for doing that” is just… silly, right?
or “oh, but they supported the main villain, they support [obviously bad thing the villain did]”, thats also silly, right?
…and the real kicker is, if the other party members responded like that, it wouldn’t help the party, it would make things wayyy worse
like, they already know what the controlled character did wasnt good, that character probably already feels guilty about it, is it really gonna help to shun them and just… drive them away? (not even the “oh lul they join the villain again” meme, even just… being driven into solitude and then eventually dying. party down a member for the whole rest of the adventure.)
[edit: i mean ok i know you in particular wouldnt wanna drive them away, but like. idk i feel like thats what the shame usually does]
this is a lot of how azalea views situations like this
@patchuun @7666 @anemone @georgia the party’s probably gonna say something like “we’re your friends, remember us?” or “remember, they [the villain] burned our homes! [or something]”, or maybe “youre helping them kill us all”
but theyre not gonna say “you support killing us all” or “youre responsible for this” or etc
and yea, it was even thinking like “you dont just tell them ‘youre bad’, you beat them in a fight (which theyre obviously gonna start) and get them to snap out of it!”
…honestly a lot of this is mainly just, “azalea realllllly doesnt like the word ‘support’ in these contexts”
it has this really nasty two-meanings thing, where it has one meaning that’s true and easily defensible [they made (bad things) more likely] and a meaning thats awful and harder to defend [they, as a person, desire these bad things to happen (and most people will usually take away “they deserve suffering if they dont Repent™” as well)], and no one distinguishes between the two meanings
it makes it so that a discussion ostensibly about practicalities starts having implications about peoples internal worldview and/or character and that gets hairy Fast
awawa
@patchuun @7666 @anemone @georgia i think “support” makes people think if they can strike at the base and attack a bad things “supporters”, the thing will stop existing
and also think that thats how to make bad things go away / make the world better..and also think that bad things are something that can be go awayed, rather than a simple absence that you deal with by trying to make something nice [ok that ones more complicated but rather it makes people aim more towards “nothing should exist, im gonna destroy things” than “more good things should exist, im gonna make something”]
awawa
@pettanko@tsundere.love @sun@shitposter.world @7666@comp.lain.la @georgia@netzsphaere.xyz you can hurt democrats by voting for democrats since no one hurts the democrats like themselves